Aiming Systems • NAYSAYERS • YEASAYERS

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If you have Joey on ignore, how did you read his first post? It is his thread, after all. :scratchhead:

Best,
Mike


I didn't see Joey's first post in this thread.

If you have someone on Ignore in place of their post you just get a message that says "This message is hidden because you have JoeyA on your ignore list." You can see the thread and everyone else's posts that aren't on your Ignore list.

It's not as good as the FfvB for Mozilla's Firefox with it's Super Ignore capability, but it's pretty good :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
Doesn't matter if you're eloquent while the boys from The Inquisition are running around looking to strap someone to a stake and have a weenie roast.

Lou Figueroa

Calling members name is def against the forum rules, Lou. We'll just call your turn just a "roast". :grin:

Best,
Mike
 
Joey,
I rest my case. Since you brought up Patrick Johnson's offenses, we have a prominent poster here who is currently getting away with name-calling, ad hominem attacks and besmirching fellow posters good names.

Well...say his name already! The suspense made me change my depends twice so far. Or quit posting about it.

Best,
Mike
 
Why does any standard need to be met?

Here, I'll tell you why: you are not satisfied just hearing the opinions of others, nor just providing yours. You don’t want to just “discuss it.” You appear to have this need to proselytize about these systems. And that’s the problem with you and Joey and Spider -- you want converts, while many of the rest of are willing to just talk about it but refuse to drink the Kool-Aid and that’s why things spin on forever.

Your side has imposed standards, not ours. The thing is that it's fine to have some skepticism and impose some criteria. But geez at least meet halfway when people are trying hard to satisfy the criteria.

And no Lou I don't want converts. My involvement is limited to simply passing on a positive testimonial as someone who has learned the method and uses it successfully (and happily).

My involvement in an aiming thread would be this without the knockers:

(Interested Person) "Anyone ever tried xyx system?"

(me) "Yes. I learned it and it's part of my game now. Works great for me. You probably want to get with someone who knows how to teach it rather than just try and follow the written directions."

(Interested Person) "Thanks, will do."

It really is that simple.

Now maybe there is a follow up quesiton.......

(Interested Person) "Could you be a little more specific as to why it works for you and is better than Ghost Ball?"

(me) "Sure, I have trouble consistently seeing the Ghost Ball or staying fixated on a spot on the object ball. So it's hard for me to consistently get down on the right shot line using those methods. Consequently I am steering the ball a lot. With the xyz method I get on the right shot line and then I focus on my stroke and delivery instead of whether or not I am lined up right. For me this has led to pocketing more balls, a higher percentage on tough shots, and more satisfaction when I play."

(Interested Person) "Thanks, I will look into it"

(me) "You're welcome."

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And no: it was after, not before viewing the DVD, that I said Willie couldn’t convince me.

So what? The point is by that statement you set an impossible bar. You have a gift for hyperbole as well. Because if one takes you seriously then you mean to say that if Willie Mosconi came back to life, watched the DVD and tried to convince you that it's a valid method you would tell him he is wrong. If that's what you mean then no one less than Willie has ANY chance with you.

As to how I post, you, and others need to own your negativity. Don’t blame me if you don’t like what I post or how I post it: respond and move on, or ignore me, just like I do in a few cases.

Oh we own it Lou. But please don't be childish here. When you post biting sarcastic and slanderous comments you are doing it in such a way as to DESIRE a response and also in full knowledge that the slanderous ones MUST be replied to. Of course I blame you for what you post. No one but you is in control of your keyboard.


I am "owning" Joey and Spider (and a couple of their toadies -- you know who you are :-) by ignoring them. You, I am still trying to engage in intelligent dialogue with because, as you say we, “go way back on this.” And because we have that history I feel that somehow we can still communicate.

Um ok. They might feel that you are the one who is being owned by running away while they answer whatever you write that they feel warrants a response. Either way the dynamic between you and anyone else is forged by both sides, not just one.


Joey, with his self-righteous blue ink tirades is no longer worthy of wasting my time with. He long ago became that which he rails against. Same for Spider with his endless string of frat boy jpegs and low brow digs.

Lastly, you are wrong: for me, none of this has crossed the good-natured barking and hazing of the pool hall. If it has for you, then you need to put me on Ignore.

Lou Figueroa

Lou come on, none of this has crossed the line yet you place Joey and Dave on ignore? So IF we were all in the pool room barking about this how would you "ignore" Dave and Joey? That would be hilarious. I don't need to ignore you because when you say something that demands a response then I will respond if I catch it.
 
Lou, now you come with the name-calling all over again. Your tolerance for mean-spirited comments knows no end.

You can't help yourself can you?. In that regard, you're no different than PJ. It's really sad. You could have turned over a new leaf.

I guess you will be strutting like a rooster when this thread is taken down by the moderators. Oh well, I guess that's what HATERS DO. :ignore:

It could be worse. He could be a baiter. You know, people that start "peaceful" threads while stirring underlying issues. Maybe if somebody would just confront the issue head on, instead of taunting and crying to their parents, maybe it would be finally laid to rest.

Would you consider it spineless to start conflicts for the sole reason of getting people into trouble?

Most people do.. but, hey, they may be cursed with a sense of dignity. Instead of strutting like a rooster for picking a fight you can't win only for the fact that it can't be lost either. Good for you.
 
Well...say his name already! The suspense made me change my depends twice so far. Or quit posting about it.

Best,
Mike

I doubt we'll be hearing much more in the form of ad hominem attacks from PoolSharkAllen. I think the moderators are getting fed up with the ad hominem attacks by him and Lou.

Lou is awful good at camoflaging his mean-spirited comments but it is catching up to him too.

Banks follows CTE threads like a blood hound, needling and hoping to get a heated response from me and others who have been known to like CTE/Pro One.

Duckie flies in on turbulent air makes comments that are appropriate for a dizzy flight but Daffy still spots him the orange crush.

Oh well, it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.
 
It's amazing that you've wasted 9 years of your life arguing with Lou and others over a silly aiming system. Please tell me you're not a basket case. ;)

Why don't you follow your own suggestion and let this and any other aiming thread go for three days before you comment. If you and the other diehard yeasayers would do that then I predict that by day three the thread is not even on page two.

You're still here? Better than being someone like you who argues about the best way to argue.

Only thing worse than a troll is a hypocritical one.
 
Lou is awful good at camoflaging his mean-spirited comments but it is catching up to him too.

Banks follows CTE threads like a blood hound, needling and hoping to get a heated response from me and others who have been known to like CTE/Pro One.

How ironic that probably the biggest instigator picks at somebody for trying to be sneaky about their deliberate attacks.

I follow CTE threads like a blood hound? What a sad statement from you. Considering the fact that I think I've posted twice about conduct recently, you really are grasping for straws now, aren't you? You must really feel a burning need to create a false defense for yourself. Is something not going as planned?
 
You're still here? Better than being someone like you who argues about the best way to argue.

Only thing worse than a troll is a hypocritical one.

You're obviously not the brightest crayon in the box.

You were the one who suggested that the Naysayers wait three days before commenting on an aiming thread. So why don't you Yeasayers follow your own suggestion? It appears that you are the one who is being hypocritical.
 
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lol, oh yes, that reminds me of another name to put on my Ignore list.

Lou Figueroa
knew there was
someone I was missing

:D:D:D

coward (ˈkaʊəd)
—n
a person who shrinks from or avoids danger, pain, or difficulty
[C13: from Old French cuard, from coue tail, from Latin cauda; perhaps suggestive of a frightened animal with its tail between its legs]
 
joey, what would you call the aiming system i use and showed you

I don't know what I would call it. I do know it's IMPRESSIVE in your hands when you fire those balls in at high speed. :D

IMPRESSIVE AIMING SYSTEM might sound too pompous, but it is impressive. Now, you just have to come out with a video and book to show precisely how it is done. Win a few titles and you'll have a long line of followers.
 
2 tribes of lemmings rushing towards certain doom arguing over whether its better to just jump or use a system.......
 
How ironic that probably the biggest instigator picks at somebody for trying to be sneaky about their deliberate attacks.

I follow CTE threads like a blood hound? What a sad statement from you. Considering the fact that I think I've posted twice about conduct recently, you really are grasping for straws now, aren't you? You must really feel a burning need to create a false defense for yourself. Is something not going as planned?

Please Banks, all I did was click on your name and click on FIND ALL POSTS BY BANKS and it's all there for anyone to see. I don't know what your problem is with CTE/Pro One or me but you can find someone else to argue with. You don't come out often but when you do you always are hounding CTE like a bloodhound.

It's no matter to me.

What really tickles me is that some of the Naysayers actually think that I care what aiming system they use and that I want converts for CTE/Pro One. :D:D:D

Sorry to disappoint but I'm not interested in arguing with you or anyone else.
 
Your side has imposed standards, not ours. The thing is that it's fine to have some skepticism and impose some criteria. But geez at least meet halfway when people are trying hard to satisfy the criteria.

And no Lou I don't want converts. My involvement is limited to simply passing on a positive testimonial as someone who has learned the method and uses it successfully (and happily).

My involvement in an aiming thread would be this without the knockers:

(Interested Person) "Anyone ever tried xyx system?"

(me) "Yes. I learned it and it's part of my game now. Works great for me. You probably want to get with someone who knows how to teach it rather than just try and follow the written directions."

(Interested Person) "Thanks, will do."

It really is that simple.

Now maybe there is a follow up quesiton.......

(Interested Person) "Could you be a little more specific as to why it works for you and is better than Ghost Ball?"

(me) "Sure, I have trouble consistently seeing the Ghost Ball or staying fixated on a spot on the object ball. So it's hard for me to consistently get down on the right shot line using those methods. Consequently I am steering the ball a lot. With the xyz method I get on the right shot line and then I focus on my stroke and delivery instead of whether or not I am lined up right. For me this has led to pocketing more balls, a higher percentage on tough shots, and more satisfaction when I play."

(Interested Person) "Thanks, I will look into it"

(me) "You're welcome."

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So what? The point is by that statement you set an impossible bar. You have a gift for hyperbole as well. Because if one takes you seriously then you mean to say that if Willie Mosconi came back to life, watched the DVD and tried to convince you that it's a valid method you would tell him he is wrong. If that's what you mean then no one less than Willie has ANY chance with you.



Oh we own it Lou. But please don't be childish here. When you post biting sarcastic and slanderous comments you are doing it in such a way as to DESIRE a response and also in full knowledge that the slanderous ones MUST be replied to. Of course I blame you for what you post. No one but you is in control of your keyboard.




Um ok. They might feel that you are the one who is being owned by running away while they answer whatever you write that they feel warrants a response. Either way the dynamic between you and anyone else is forged by both sides, not just one.




Lou come on, none of this has crossed the line yet you place Joey and Dave on ignore? So IF we were all in the pool room barking about this how would you "ignore" Dave and Joey? That would be hilarious. I don't need to ignore you because when you say something that demands a response then I will respond if I catch it.



It's only simple if someone agrees with you or seeks out more info. Disagree with you or the rest of the clan and it is no longer simple.

And one thing I will never figure out is how all of youze guys -- to a man -- "know" what someone else wants or "DESIRES." I could care less about a response. Most of the stuff I or most guys here post goes out into the ozone with nary a chirp from anyone and I'm fine with that -- it is the way of the internet.

And, in case you haven't noticed: we're not in an actual pool room. If I had an Ignore feature in a real pool room I would use it with gay abandon. Here, it is a welcomed luxury.

Lou Figueroa
 
Please Banks, all I did was click on your name and click on FIND ALL POSTS BY BANKS and it's all there for anyone to see. I don't know what your problem is with CTE/Pro One or me but you can find someone else to argue with. You don't come out often but when you do you always are hounding CTE like a bloodhound.

It's no matter to me.

What really tickles me is that some of the Naysayers actually think that I care what aiming system they use and that I want converts for CTE/Pro One. :D:D:D

Sorry to disappoint but I'm not interested in arguing with you or anyone else.

Then please reread your first post. I briefly thought that it was sincerely conciliatory, until you stuck in a few barbs.

I really don't care how people aim, as long as they're either comfortable with their game or trying to improve.

I think that Duckie should try an "aiming" system.

My problem for some time now has been with the relentless, unapologetic marketing attempts that result in threads such as this one.

If you did not want CTE "converts", then why the repetitive threads? You are/were in marketing(iirc), so you know very well what you are doing.
 
It's only simple if someone agrees with you or seeks out more info. Disagree with you or the rest of the clan and it is no longer simple.

And one thing I will never figure out is how all of youze guys -- to a man -- "know" what someone else wants or "DESIRES." I could care less about a response. Most of the stuff I or most guys here post goes out into the ozone with nary a chirp from anyone and I'm fine with that -- it is the way of the internet.

And, in case you haven't noticed: we're not in an actual pool room. If I had an Ignore feature in a real pool room I would use it with gay abandon. Here, it is a welcomed luxury.

Lou Figueroa

The same way you ascribe motivation to people. Do I really need to point out the exact phrase you used above to tell me what I think?

Since you are fully aware that we are not in an actual pool room why do you treat it like one? On one hand you're attitude is, it's just good-natured ribbing like pool players do and on the other you're like "dude, I owned you because I can put you on ignore." I think the reason you use ignore here and would use it in the pool room is that you do fully understand that there are things that piss you off which you would rather not deal with.

Just listened to a little Robin Williams and he said something cool which is universal. There is great freedom in letting go. Then he quoted Tina Fey and said she said, "whenever you think you are feeling really good about yourself there is the internet."

So true.

No matter what thing that you do or like or feel good about the "internet" always has people willing to do or say whatever they want to tear it and you down. Negativity for sport is the cheapest commodity that exists on the Earth. All it requires is the slightest investment of time to throw tacks in the road on the information superhighway.

As I said in other posts maybe this time in the development of human intellectual capacity exists to train us to ignore the trolls and focus on the important. I certainly feel my pysche growing callouses and am getting to the point where I am about to let go.

And by letting go I don't mean letting go of providing positive testimonials for the things I feel like sharing my experiences about. I mean letting go of the need to obsess over what you think of what I have to say.

That is the ultimate freedom in this medium.
 
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