My reading comprehension is fairly weak, so correct me if my interpretation of your post is wrong (I'm not quite certain what you're trying to get across)... but are you stating that those 10 points are all pieces of advice which will hinder a player's improvement? Conversely, do you believe that doing the exact opposite of those suggestions will yield better results (i.e. keeping the cue elevated, bridge arm off the table, etc. etc.)?
Aiming - what does Efren know, that no one else does ?
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My reading comprehension is fairly weak, so correct me if my interpretation of your post is wrong (I'm not quite certain what you're trying to get across)... but are you stating that those 10 points are all pieces of advice which will hinder a player's improvement? Conversely, do you believe that doing the exact opposite of those suggestions will yield better results (i.e. keeping the cue elevated, bridge arm off the table, etc. etc.)?
'Zen in the Art of Archer' to learn how to "become the cue ball"
I always recommend the book 'Zen in the Art of Archer' to learn how to "become the cue ball" - the book says, and I paraphrase "The hitter and target must become the same, the release is like snow falling off a bamboo leaf, at the moment of "highest tension."
I've read this book 6 times in my life and a 7th would bring on new understanding. Efren indeed is the cue ball when he plays, there's much to be learned from this process.
I always recommend the book 'Zen in the Art of Archer' to learn how to "become the cue ball" - the book says, and I paraphrase "The hitter and target must become the same, the release is like snow falling off a bamboo leaf, at the moment of "highest tension."
I've read this book 6 times in my life and a 7th would bring on new understanding. Efren indeed is the cue ball when he plays, there's much to be learned from this process.
Sometimes these "publicly excepted myths" can bind you up and make the game tortuous.
I'm suggesting that these are not "set in stone," and variations in all cases are more effective. No, the opposite of these isn't where I would recommend going, I offered them up for debate because I, personally have found that slight deviations can be helpful to players.
Sometimes these "publicly excepted myths" can bind you up and make the game tortuous. I believer the bottom line is THE GAME MUST BRING ENJOYMENT - or you're doing it wrong. I speak from experience, there's been times I've tried "new things" and it messed me up for a week or two. The ones that recommended them didn't "mess me up" on purpose, it's just one of the processes of learning.
I'm just putting those 10 things out there because they ALL came up in one of my lessons. When I straightened him out and made it ok to play more naturally (and comfortably), a light came on and he brightened up inside. He had re discovered the "fun element" that drew him to the Game in the first place. 'The Game is the Teacher' CJ Wiley
I'm suggesting that these are not "set in stone," and variations in all cases are more effective. No, the opposite of these isn't where I would recommend going, I offered them up for debate because I, personally have found that slight deviations can be helpful to players.
Sometimes these "publicly excepted myths" can bind you up and make the game tortuous. I believer the bottom line is THE GAME MUST BRING ENJOYMENT - or you're doing it wrong. I speak from experience, there's been times I've tried "new things" and it messed me up for a week or two. The ones that recommended them didn't "mess me up" on purpose, it's just one of the processes of learning.
I'm just putting those 10 things out there because they ALL came up in one of my lessons. When I straightened him out and made it ok to play more naturally (and comfortably), a light came on and he brightened up inside. He had re discovered the "fun element" that drew him to the Game in the first place. 'The Game is the Teacher' CJ Wiley
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Pivot and shift
i have heard he uses pivot and shift aiming form a reputable source if there is such a thing without hearing it directly from the source. I won't name names but they can chime in if they want, they post quite frequently here.
i have heard he uses pivot and shift aiming form a reputable source if there is such a thing without hearing it directly from the source. I won't name names but they can chime in if they want, they post quite frequently here.
I've heard he uses ghost pocket system and backhand english.
Glad I could help. Let me know is any of the 10 don't make sense.
Inner Golf by Timothy Galwey is another book about using the subconscious for maximum performance. I've read it a few times and it can be applied to pool.
I always recommend the book 'Zen in the Art of Archer' to learn how to "become the cue ball" - the book says, and I paraphrase "The hitter and target must become the same, the release is like snow falling off a bamboo leaf, at the moment of "highest tension."
I've read this book 6 times in my life and a 7th would bring on new understanding. Efren indeed is the cue ball when he plays, there's much to be learned from this process.
Seven!You are at the top of my list as Great players that have a lotta smarts.It mite take me 50 reads but I'll give it a go.
Thanks
if the cue ball doesn't go where you want it to......it goes somewhere better.
You are certainly right. I have read this one as well back when I competed in national junior tennis tournaments (Timothy wrote INNER TENNIS first).
Timothy uses the 'Zen' concepts and declares it in his writing. Zen, is like the TAO, not a religion, just more of a "reality". It's about becoming what you're doing in life to master "it". "IT" is that area of your subconscious that has the ability to make every ball, and if the cue ball doesn't go where you want it to......it goes somewhere better.
You are certainly right. I have read this one as well back when I competed in national junior tennis tournaments (Timothy wrote INNER TENNIS first).
Timothy uses the 'Zen' concepts and declares it in his writing. Zen, is like the TAO, not a religion, just more of a "reality". It's about becoming what you're doing in life to master "it". "IT" is that area of your subconscious that has the ability to make every ball, and if the cue ball doesn't go where you want it to......it goes somewhere better.
That looks very interesting, I'll go find a copy and check it out.
Thanks Buddy, that looks very interesting, I'll go find a copy and check it out.
Thanks Buddy, that looks very interesting, I'll go find a copy and check it out.
Thanks Buddy, that looks very interesting, I'll go find a copy and check it out.
You will love it-
great for sportsmen-and great for real life.
books "great for sportsmen and great for real life"...
Speaking of books "great for sportsmen and great for real life" - Alf Taylor's book is a great read about hustling pool and all the real life experiences that are involved. I've been reading it this week. :thumbup:
Speaking of books "great for sportsmen and great for real life" - Alf Taylor's book is a great read about hustling pool and all the real life experiences that are involved. I've been reading it this week. :thumbup:
I always recommend the book 'Zen in the Art of Archer' to learn how to "become the cue ball" - the book says, and I paraphrase "The hitter and target must become the same, the release is like snow falling off a bamboo leaf, at the moment of "highest tension."
I've read this book 6 times in my life and a 7th would bring on new understanding. Efren indeed is the cue ball when he plays, there's much to be learned from this process.
"In Japan, an art such as archery is not practiced solely for utilitarian purposes such as learning to hit targets. Archery is also meant to train the mind and bring it into contact with the ultimate reality. If one really wishes to be master of an art, technical knowledge of it is not enough. One has to transcend technique so that the art becomes an “artless art” growing out of the unconsciousness. In this way, as the author simply, clearly demonstrates, archery becomes a path to greater understanding and enlightenment."
THE GAME REALLY IS THE TEACHER
That what you have shown up now, is what CJ has tried to explain. Everyone who reads this book carefully will learn a lot from it.
And in the book *Thinkin Body, Dancing Mind* the main info you will discover yourself by reading it, and learning from it.
The connection made in this book, where the 2 writers call it *taosports* hits the nail imho.
But hey-every human is individual. You can learn a lot of lessons-no matter what you re doing. At job, in books, at home...you just have to take care and ASK YOURSELF THE CORRECT QUESTIONS! Once you have the right questions, you re ready to get the right answer.
For example both also helps to learn about visualizing- but sure not with a shortcut-explaining. Read it, learn from it.
changed to how I READ IT:wink from the book 'Zen in the Art of Archery'
from the book 'Zen in the Art of Archery'"In Japan, an art such as archery is not practiced solely for utilitarian purposes such as learning to hit targets. Archery is also meant to train the mind and bring it into contact with the ultimate reality. If one really wishes to be master of an art, technical knowledge of it is not enough. One has to transcend technique so that the art becomes an “artless art” growing out of the unconsciousness. In this way, as the author simply, clearly demonstrates, archery becomes a path to greater understanding and enlightenment."
THE GAME REALLY IS THE TEACHER
I like this version, and it's "paraphrased"(or changed to how I READ IT:wink
"In LIFE, an art such as POCKET BILLIARDS is not practiced solely for utilitarian purposes such as learning to hit targets. POOL is also meant to train the mind and bring it into contact with the ultimate reality.
If one really wishes to be master of an art, technical knowledge of it is not enough. One has to transcend technique so that the art becomes an “artless art” growing out of the unconsciousness.
In this way, as the author simply, clearly demonstrates, Pocket Billiards becomes a path to greater understanding and enlightenment."
So have you figured it out? thoughts......?Thanks, the PPV will be up right after lunch TODAY.....ALOHA.....CJ Wiley
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I did
CJ,
Its interesting this whole conversation about art, zen. I havent read the book but understand the concept.
A long time ago I noticed I had an ability that I could tap into only when playing a certain player unnamed that made me play my game.
Well he just doesnt budge on his schedule and the last few years just cant seem to get up with him but for a few minutes at a time here or there.
Well I found out a good player just moved like 20 miles from me. I couldnt not go give him some of my money but you know, the guy made me bear down I mean really bear down and it took me awhile to understand what that was again because I work a lot.
After mulling over what it took to make me bear down I started to understand what Id been doing that held me back and in some sort of instant I understood how to get to the best game I have at this point.
Everything I had learned went in the background sort of like the back sight of a rifle....it was there to guide me but I just needed to let loose and play...and I did...I just let it go....and now I know how to.....
I guess I found my happy place and in a way it seems like I know a lot of things but Im relearning the game from this perspective and all I can say is .....Awesome.
Eureka....I have found it!
CJ,
Its interesting this whole conversation about art, zen. I havent read the book but understand the concept.
A long time ago I noticed I had an ability that I could tap into only when playing a certain player unnamed that made me play my game.
Well he just doesnt budge on his schedule and the last few years just cant seem to get up with him but for a few minutes at a time here or there.
Well I found out a good player just moved like 20 miles from me. I couldnt not go give him some of my money but you know, the guy made me bear down I mean really bear down and it took me awhile to understand what that was again because I work a lot.
After mulling over what it took to make me bear down I started to understand what Id been doing that held me back and in some sort of instant I understood how to get to the best game I have at this point.
Everything I had learned went in the background sort of like the back sight of a rifle....it was there to guide me but I just needed to let loose and play...and I did...I just let it go....and now I know how to.....
I guess I found my happy place and in a way it seems like I know a lot of things but Im relearning the game from this perspective and all I can say is .....Awesome.
Eureka....I have found it!
Thanks Buddy, that looks very interesting, I'll go find a copy and check it out.
Nice! I've read a few books by Al Huang. I'll have to check that one out as well. He is very inspiring. I studied Tai Chi with Tom Tunney, one of Al's senior students. I don't know if Mr. Huang plays billiards, but if he does, I'm sure he looks at it as a dance rather than a competition. I know it is for me.
I cannot recommend the practice of Tai Chi and other internal martial arts (I know CJ studied Baqua) too highly. They will energize you, bring mental and physical balance to you, quiet your mind, and help you tap into a hidden inner power source that most folks don't know is there. It will definitely improve your game, and most other things in your life.