Aiming while standing:

Max Eberle has several YouTube video on aiming
The important part is you need the stance that you can deliver a straight stroke being on line and not stroking the cue straight is of little value
I like to check that with a mirror to make sure I'm stroking straight back and forward
You can also lay a stick on the table and bring your bridge hand up to it and practice stroking over the stick to see if your stoking straight

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Imo you should be aiming with a bent back and lowered head while approaching the table before placing your bridge hand.
While upright, you don't see the balls as well.
 
Tony_in_MD said:
Yes, and also walking around the table to envision the shot from different perspectives too.
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Exactly. And IMO a shot killer is getting down, setting your bridge hand, and trying to make adjustments THEN, instead of getting off the shot, resetting etc. as previously mentioned.
 
Most definitely, getting a good visual on the shot
while standing is a key ingredient in consistent
shot making. It allows you to see where to hit the
object ball and lets your bridge hand set up in the
correct position almost automatically as you drop
down into the shooting position and take your stance.
Another key ingredient is to focus on the cue ball, as
well and where it will impact the object ball. It's easy
to see where to hit an object ball, but if you fall to see
the cue ball contacting the correct spot on the object
ball it can lead to more misses than focusing on the
object ball alone.
 
railbird99 said:
So how do you go from standing position to shooting position in a consistent way that ensures you end up in the exact line you saw while standing?

There is leg and torso movement, bridge placement and cue stick positioning. Virtually the entire body moves during this process.

So it seems like you have to do one of two things. You need to ensure your head never moves laterally while everything else is moving, or you need to place the cue stick on the line while standing, and build your shooting stance around it without it ever moving.
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I would say check out Lee Brett's dvd. He goes over it very well...
 
Type in "aim while standing" into the search box a the bottom of billiards.colostate.edu and look at all of the resources that come up. This is a very important concept, and it gets lots of attention in many of my articles and videos.

Regards,
Dave
 
While it is...there is more

dr_dave said:
Type in "aim while standing" into the search box a the bottom of billiards.colostate.edu and look at all of the resources that come up. This is a very important concept, and it gets lots of attention in many of my articles and videos.

Regards,
Dave
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I think the aiming while standing concept is very important for initial aiming its also very important in the process of determining how to use your depth perception. Even if you think you see the right place to address the shot many times when you get down on the shot your depth perception will tell you otherwise and you must know how to cope with this. Its hard to see through the ball to the other side so developing a depth perception technique is the answer to the shot line.
 
dr_dave said:
Type in "aim while standing" into the search box a the bottom of billiards.colostate.edu and look at all of the resources that come up. This is a very important concept, and it gets lots of attention in many of my articles and videos.

Regards,
Dave
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There are more things in heaven and Dr Dave's web pages, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
 
Before hooking up with Gen Albrecht & his Perfect Aim I never did any 'aiming' while standing tall.

I would do shot selection & intended position & english selection while up & then get down & set up & then do my fine tune 'aiming' & fine tuning of english.

I did that for more than 45 years.

Then I started missing shots that I just should not.

After getting with Gene & finding out that I am now cross eye dominant, I now get the shot line while standing & remain looking at the shot line while looking at the object ball continually as I get down ON the shot line.

It's been working very well & that miss that was just popping up from out of no where has all but completely disappeared.

Best Wishes to ALL.

PS I would recommend Gene to everyone, even if only to make SURE that one does not have an issue seeing the actual true straight line.
 
SilverCue said:
Aiming while standing:

I stopped playing in 1997 and when I started playing again a couple years ago,
I had lots of issues.

In August 2014, someone suggested that I should start aiming while standing.
My game improved almost immediately and became more consistent.

Recently I saw a video by Colin Colenso stressing the importance of bridge placement.
Here is his thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=381434
This helped my confidence.

It seems to me that aiming while standing and bridge placement are common themes
among aiming systems.
90/90
CTE
Perfect Aim
TOI????
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Dang!, I was going to start a thread on this very subject, based on a few tweaks I've made in my shot recipe.

The thing that mattered most to me lately was aiming while standing. That is, do ALL of the aiming while standing with no minor changes once down on the shot. This requires full understanding of the shot before going down on it and it also requires being able to go down on the shot in a consistent fashion that doesn't change the aim after going down into the stance. This means confidence of aim and set-up must be 100% before going down and when down, through the stroke.

This little change really upped my game lately.

Jeff Livingston
 
I came to this realization of aiming while standing when I was trying to reduce my eye movements while down in my stance....the old "quiet eye" thingy.

Once I figured out how to minimize my eye movements, I realized that those things I was previously doing while down, I now had to do while standing, specifically more aiming.

So, if you're going to do more of your aiming while standing, there will probably be a gap, a hole, in what you were doing while in your stance. Nature hates a vacuum, so my advice, fwiw, is to be sure that you also deal properly with that vacuum now in your stance. The more "quiet eye" is seen as a good thing in golf and I think it is good in pool, too, so that might be one thing you can do with the changes from aiming while standing.

I hope that makes sense. I'd appreciate more comments from those who have done this long ago.

Jeff Livingston
 
Although a bit simplistic, aiming while standing, with a view from above, is like looking at an aerial view map.

One can see the layout of the entire table. You can see open spaces, and congested areas. You can 'see' anticipated ob (perhaps multiple) paths, cb paths to ob, to and from rails. You can see the path of the ob to the pocket and the cb path to the ob, and after contact with the ob.

Kinda....you can see the movie before it starts.


Once down on the shot, you can visually confirm what you viewed from above, or not...and start over...from above.

Once down on the shot, at table level....the perspective is on a flat single plane, where perspective, vanishing points, relative ball sizes at distance, all contribute to distortion. Granted, at close distances, ball overlap, fractional aiming, contact point coordinations can be helpful....

When I am behind another car, and can only see his trunk, or either side of me, I find it harder to know where I am, and where I want to go. Reading a map, allows me more relational information, in case I have to change plans.

Not a great analogy...but I do like aiming while standing...for all the visual information that it provides.

Just my take...been wrong before.;)
 
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