Alex Pagulayan going to UK to try pro snooker

SakuJack said:
What length race would you propose?

Best of 7 is fine, IMO. It's only Q School.
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I would say at least races to 7. I mean they are qualifying for a tour that has best of 17 as the opening rounds in most pro events if I am not mistaken.

So why not test the prospective players at distance?

Imagine if the test to get on the pro tour was races to five. I can beat any pro in a race to five some of the time but I will pretty much never beat them in a race to nine or longer.

Anyway, short races favor guys like Alex I think. So GO ALEX!!!!!
 
SakuJack said:
You're mistaken. Almost no events have a best of 17 opening round. Most are best of 9 or 11 I think. Some are best of 7.



lol
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Ok, I stand corrected, sorry.

As for beating pros in short races I guarantee you I have a pretty good beat list already.

I ran out five racks on Wiseman from the opening break once.

And he beat me 11-5.
 
JB Cases said:
I would say at least races to 7. I mean they are qualifying for a tour that has best of 17 as the opening rounds in most pro events if I am not mistaken.

So why not test the prospective players at distance?

Imagine if the test to get on the pro tour was races to five. I can beat any pro in a race to five some of the time but I will pretty much never beat them in a race to nine or longer.

Anyway, short races favor guys like Alex I think. So GO ALEX!!!!!
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The better player is always the favorite regardless ,, just not as much in short races



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I wonder what would be equal to a race to four at snooker in nine-ball?

I'm thinking NINE-BALL race to 25 = SNOOKER race to 4
 
thefonz said:
I think if Alex puts the effort in anything is possible. Heck if Marco Fu can make it in the top 16's, I'm sure Alex can.
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I think that is a little unfair on Marco!!! Ranking event winner - been at the top for a long time.

Nobody on this thread has mentioned the apprenticeship, so to speak, that needs to be served to get to the top. Less than a handful have gone straight to the top of the game. It takes a long time to learn how to play the game properly. Alex and Corey have had next to zero exposure to this level of play. Although there maybe some good players in Canada, the standard of the top players there from what I can see is the same as decent club players from the UK, nothing more. And it is even weaker in the USA. I don't mean any offense by this.

Chris Melling has been here before trying to qualify for pro tour. He knows the score. He could have a chance of qualifying if he has been knuckling down on the snooker table - but not sure how much he has committed himself this time. He has always tried to juggle E8B, snooker, American pool and never given one of them his undivided attention fro more than a year at a time. It speaks volumes for how talented the guy is that he has been a multiple winner in pro E8B and American pool whilst still attempting to get on the snooker tour. His fundamentals, when it comes to approaching a snooker table, are twice as strong as Alex's and double that again for Deuel. If Chris can't do it - I don't hold out much hope for the other guys.

You cannot fault them for giving it a go though, fair play to them. Takes nuts to take on a task like this - especially going in blind.
 
Long matches?

Many of these guys find the financial nut of going to q school tough to swallow and you want to add many days, not to mention scheduling problems, to the mix?
 
Scaramouche said:
Long matches?

Many of these guys find the financial nut of going to q school tough to swallow and you want to add many days, not to mention scheduling problems, to the mix?
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Well, yeah. I mean the prize is the golden ticket to the big show so to speak. People were lining up to pay $2000 to play in IPT qualifiers where the first prizes were promised to be 200,000-500,000 per event.

My thought is that everyone who goes to Q-school should already be close to pro tour ready and so they would be ready for the expense and the longer races.

But, since the early rounds of most events are races to five I guess races to four are ok. At least Snooker has a formal way to get to the tour.

Are there any other ways? Open events? Sponsor/promoter wild cards?
 
gordml said:
And the 4th frame .....Alex wins 4-0!
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Next up for Alex..... Jason Weston who was a pro between throughout the 90s up until the early 2000s, highest rank 93 and hovered around the top 128 for many years. Experienced player who should be able to put mediocre (at this level) players in trouble with tough choices- should be a good test. I give Alex about 60-40 to progress to the last 32. Good luck Alex!
 
I think those are some decent breaks for a first round match where you are playing a race to 4 frames. I imagine the players play a bit tigher in such a short match.

Alex's breaks: 21, 12, 44, 14, 23, 39, 31, 22.

Just win the frame baby!
 
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TheRanger said:
I think that is a little unfair on Marco!!! Ranking event winner - been at the top for a long time.

Nobody on this thread has mentioned the apprenticeship, so to speak, that needs to be served to get to the top. Less than a handful have gone straight to the top of the game. It takes a long time to learn how to play the game properly. Alex and Corey have had next to zero exposure to this level of play. Although there maybe some good players in Canada, the standard of the top players there from what I can see is the same as decent club players from the UK, nothing more. And it is even weaker in the USA. I don't mean any offense by this.

Chris Melling has been here before trying to qualify for pro tour. He know the score. He could have a chance of qualifying if he has been knuckling down on the snooker table - but not sure how much he has committed himself this time. He has always tried to juggle E8B, snooker, American pool and never given one of them his undivided attention fro more than a year at a time. It speaks volumes for how talented the guy is that he has been a multiple winner in pro E8B and American pool whilst still attempting to get on the snooker tour. His fundamentals, when it comes to approaching a snooker table, are twice as strong as Alex's and double that again for Deuel. If Chris can't do it - I don't hold out much hope for the other guys.

You cannot fault them for giving it a go though, fair play to them. Takes nuts to take on a task like this - especially going in blind.
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Sorry, don't get me wrong. I wasn't insinuating that Marco Fu doesn't belong where he is, he definitely does and has done so through a lot of hard work, perhaps not as fluid as some, but a great tactician and solid matchplay ability. What I was trying to get at is I think they are similar talent wise. I can see Alex as a player who can drive others to bits with his tactical play on the snooker table, much like in rotation games. You don't necessarily need to be making a ton at each time to the table to win.
 
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