All Japan Championships

Hard to believe the top 2 Japanese pros, Toru and Hayato got beat by amateurs in the first round... Toru pretty much dominated the Japan pro tour this year.
 
When did a Japanese guy last win this?

Takeshi Okumura in 2005, before that Kunihiko Takahashi in 1997.
 
Sounds like about 20 people are in the audience mostly relatives I'd imagine. Obviously this is a huge deal in Japan....
 
Actually they play starts in the morning and it's still a weekday, so not many people are going to be there. It's only 3 pm now and I'm still at work.
The crowd picks up in the evening, and you'll definitely see a lot more people on the weekend for the final rounds of the tournament.
 
Archer lost 7-9. Dennis Orcullo beat little Ko 9-6. Jeffrey Ignacio demolished his opponent 9-2.
 
32 winners from winners side decided and 16 winners from losers side are thru to last 64. So far big names are thru except for Wang Can and Raj Hundal who have been eliminated
Brackets for single elimination last 64 which starts tomorrow at http://jpba.ne.jp/wp/info/all-japan-brackets-in-english/

Do or die remaining 16 matches on losers side being played now.
Archer, Little Ko, Kiamco fighting to avoid elimination http://all-jp-billiards-scoring.appspot.com/show/onthehill
Live stream now Lee Van v Akagariyama Yukio http://www.ustream.tv/channel/all-japan-championship

Lee Van ran 3 pack then missed 10 ball on rack 4 allowing Yukio to catch up
:grin:
 
Lee Van just lost a match v Akagariyama Yukio 6-9 that he should have won . The miss on 10 ball in rack 4 after leading 3-0 proved critical
In final rack Yukio leading 8-6, played a combo on 1 and another ball. Made the combo but 1 ball against rail. He played safe but scratched bringing Lee Van to table. Lee Van running out but bad positioned himself on a ball and let Yukio back to table to eliminate Lee Van

Kiamco and Little Ko thru to last 64 after winning their matches
Archer is fighting tooth and nail with Onishi 6-6 now. Archer is playing slow as usual -his matches are usually one of last to finish LOL

Last 64 bracket almost complete http://jpba.ne.jp/wp/info/all-japan-brackets-in-english/
Some juicy matches tomorrow. All matches will be race to 11
Biado-Kunihiko
Thorsten-Lo Li Wen
Chang Yu Lung-Daryl Peach
 
26 of the final 64 players are from Japan. How do you like their chances to put one of them in the semifinals. I would say it's even money at best. There are too many good players from the Philippines, China and Taiwan to allow that to happen. By the way, this is NOT a stronger field than the U.S. Open just passed, although many want to call it that. Where are all the top European players? Where is Shane? And with almost half the field from Japan, that makes it exactly what it is, The All Japan Championships! A damn good tournament with decent money attached, but nothing like a true World Championship.

P.S. In the interest of correctness I do see Mika, Ralf and Darryl in the field, all three top European players. Missing are Thorsten, Darren, Niels, Nikos and Jayson among others. Among the missing Americans, Dechaine needs to start going to tournaments like this if he ever wants to get world recognition. He has the game to compete on this level, that's for sure.
 
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jay helfert said:
26 of the final 64 players are from Japan. How do you like their chances to put one of them in the semifinals. I would say it's even money at best. There are too many good players from the Philippines, China and Taiwan to allow that to happen. By the way, this is NOT a stronger field than the U.S. Open just passed, although many want to call it that. Where are all the top European players? Where is Shane? And with almost half the field from Japan, that makes it exactly what it is, The All Japan Championships! A damn good tournament with decent money attached, but nothing like a true World Championship.

P.S. In the interest of correctness I do see Mika, Ralf and Darryl in the field, all three top European players. Missing are Thorsten, Darren, Niels, Nikos and Jayson among others. Among the missing Americans, Dechaine needs to start going to tournaments like this if he ever wants to get world recognition. He has the game to compete on this level, that's for sure.
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Thorsten is in the event. He is on page one of the 64 bracket.

http://jpba.ne.jp/wp/info/all-japan-brackets-in-english/

:wink:
 
spartan said:
Lee Van just lost a match v Akagariyama Yukio 6-9 that he should have won . The miss on 10 ball in rack 4 after leading 3-0 proved critical
In final rack Yukio leading 8-6, played a combo on 1 and another ball. Made the combo but 1 ball against rail. He played safe but scratched bringing Lee Van to table. Lee Van running out but bad positioned himself on a ball and let Yukio back to table to eliminate Lee Van

Kiamco and Little Ko thru to last 64 after winning their matches
Archer is fighting tooth and nail with Onishi 6-6 now. Archer is playing slow as usual -his matches are usually one of last to finish LOL

Last 64 bracket almost complete http://jpba.ne.jp/wp/info/all-japan-brackets-in-english/
Some juicy matches tomorrow. All matches will be race to 11
Biado-Kunihiko
Thorsten-Lo Li Wen
Chang Yu Lung-Daryl Peach
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He also missed the 5 ball when the score was 3-2 / 4-2 (I can't really remember) and to me it was an indication that his chances were 50-50 after missing the 10 ball and that 5-ball. It's just not typical of him to miss easy shots...
 
sydbarret said:
How many players in this tournament?
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The main event was 128 players. Some earlier qualifying rounds filled some open spots in that field of 128.

The 128 played double elimination in 32 groups of 4, with 2 from each group of 4 proceeding to a field of 64 for single elimination from then on.

The first matches in the round of 64 start Saturday afternoon their time (it's early Saturday morning there now).
 
All Japan US Open- Strenth of field

jay helfert said:
26 of the final 64 players are from Japan. How do you like their chances to put one of them in the semifinals. I would say it's even money at best. There are too many good players from the Philippines, China and Taiwan to allow that to happen. By the way, this is NOT a stronger field than the U.S. Open just passed, although many want to call it that. Where are all the top European players? Where is Shane? And with almost half the field from Japan, that makes it exactly what it is, The All Japan Championships! A damn good tournament with decent money attached, but nothing like a true World Championship.

P.S. In the interest of correctness I do see Mika, Ralf and Darryl in the field, all three top European players. Missing are Thorsten, Darren, Niels, Nikos and Jayson among others. Among the missing Americans, Dechaine needs to start going to tournaments like this if he ever wants to get world recognition. He has the game to compete on this level, that's for sure.
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It is high time that pool/billiards has similar player rating like ELO rating for chess. In chess, as soon as you start playing your first tourney, you get an ELO rating which is calculated for your every win loss or draw in tourneys
If there is such a rating then it will be easy to measure the strength of a tourney field by using the average rating and it will be probably the most accurate measure of strength of field
Sadly we do not have such a rating one way may be to use the WPA rankings and find how number of players with WPA ranking points playing in All Japan vs the number of players in US Open. Maybe our resident Nate Silver, AtLarge can help us. Again there may be shortcomings as there are good players not playing in WPA events etc

Anyway I use a simple method-going thru the lists of players for both US Open and All Japan for notable players , 1st tier and 2nd tier world class players
Of course this is subjective method and I may miss out number of names especially most of the Japanese players who I have never heard or -maybe someone more familiar with Japanese players can give an idea. I do agree with you that of the 26 Japanese players in the last 64, most do not have much chance of getting into semis - I based this assumption on fact that Japanese players on won All Japan twice in past 10 to 20 years and both these winners were W9B champs. No offence to Japanese players but I am not knocking them just trying to state the stats :D

Anyway the total number of notable players in both events is around 30 to 40 which says that the strength of field at top is about same.
Again that is just my guesstimate opinion :grin-square:

US Open
Shane Van Boening - USA
Earl Strickland - USA
Efren Reyes - Philippines
Johnny Archer - USA
Francisco Bustamante - Philipines
Mika Immonen - Finland
Darren Appleton - England
Jose Parica - Philippines
Dennis Orcullo - Philippines
Rodney Morris – USA
Niels Feijen – Netherlands
Thorsten Hohmann - Germany
Corey Deuel - USA
Ralf Souquet - Germany
Nick Van Den Berg - Netherlands
Alex Pagulayan - Canada
Warren Kiamco - Philippines
Nikos Economopoulos - Greece
Justin Bergman - USA
Justin Hall - USA
Oscar Dominguez - USA
Jeremey Sossei - USA
Mike Dechaine – USA
Jayson Shaw – Scotland
Jason Klatt – Canada
John Morra - Canada
John Schmidt - USA
Karl Boyes - England
Albin Ouschan – Austria
Stapanov Kontantin – Russia
Waleed Majid
Dennis Grabe
Radoslaw Babica
Imran Majid
Shawn Puttnam
Max Eberle


All Japan
Jeff de Luna
Rodney Morris
Waleed Majid
Ko Ping Chung
Carlo Biado
Takahashi Kunihiko
Ramil Gallego
Warren Kiamco
Li Hewen
Dennis Orcullo
Thorsten
Lo Li Wen
Johann Chua
Radoslaw Babica
Ko Pin Yi
Mika
Antonio Lining
Oi Naoyuki
Ralf
Chang Jung Lin
Dang Jinhu
Johnny Archer
Liu Haitao
Chang Yu Lung
Daryl Peach
Fu Che Wei
Wu Jiaqing
Akagariyama Yukio
Cheng Yu Hsuan
Jeff Ignacio
Aloysius Yap
Raj Hundal
Wang Can
Lee Van
 
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