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Hello guys:

I have a Tim Scruggs in the for sale section and posted pictures in the test forum

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=391096

I invited comments in the test forum since we can't post comments like "nice cue" or whatever like we used to.

Anyway, I have gradually dropped my asking price to 1,700.00 with shipping included and also with a great 4 piece set of JPs.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=392323

A couple of trade offers, but that's about it.

SO: am I crazy and asking too much or is the market that dead?

I always enjoyed the bantor and advice/comments in the old WFS section and I am sure I am not the only one who misses it.

Obviously, looking for comments

thanks
dave
 
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Try to get your price or don't sell it. If you are not in hurry sit tight. Someone will come along.
 
it is a nice looking cue and I think Scruggs are some of the best cues ever made. The color combination isn't to my preference, I like birds eye maple, ebony points, well matching veneers (blue / gold, red gold etc). On the plus side it is from the earlier years. Recently on eBay I saw 2 different cue's newer with addition details, mother of pearl inlays going for under 1500 or less.
 
I would say that for that cue, a very basic 4-pointer with veneers, in my opinion, 1700 is a little steep.
Personally do not like the colour combination, the pictures are not real good either.
For reference, I can buy the one in the picture for $1800.

gr. Dave
 

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Thanks

Thanks guys

That's the kind of input I need.

When I can bump it again I'll reduce the price and likely put it up for 1500 without the JPs.

The one DoubleDave referenced is a beauty and looks much nicer than mine.

Does 1500 sound like a fair price?

Dave
 
For comparison, two years ago a friend was selling his Scruggs 4 point/no veneer/leather wrap/newly refinished with 5 shafts (3 original + 2 brand new from Bob Frey) for $1,600. It didn't sell within a week so I traded into it.

Simply based on that, it's hard to expect yours to move at the list price.

Hope this is helpful, yes the market is rough but there are enough threads about that already.
 
I think it is a fantastic Scruggs, the colors are excellent. Problem is with me and I suspect a lot of other pool players - I'm not willing to spend more than a few hundred bucks on a cue and I already have enough/too many cues. I have an everyday player I'm happy with.

You are selling to a very limited number of people.

If I was going to critique your ad in the wanted/for sale section I'd say imbed the pictures in the first post and take better pictures. Some people are even starting to post videos of their cue instead of just pictures.
 
1500 it might sit for 9 months. List it at 1400 and it's gone in a few days. It's a buyer's market and you can't expect to get full value on most cues.

If you list at 1500 you are admitting that you'd take 1400. So unless you like tire kickers just price drop until it's sold or you hit your bottom acceptable price.

Could try Ebay. Lots more exposure. Buyers will try to buy off ebay to save you both fees. It can be done successfully.
 
this cue is not your typical TS and the things that make it 'atypical' may be working against you.

The stingray wrap is unusual, and most prefer leather, lizard, linen, or wrapless so that will def work against you. And I'm guessing that was not done at the TS shop.

Tim's bread and butter joint is his 5/16 14 piloted stainless steel and this one is something other. Is this an implex joint?

The color combo is unusual and that can sometimes be a great thing. But as you've heard in this brief thread already, more guys do not like the color than do.

Add to the above, the fact that the cue sales market is still off (but getting a little better) and all this makes for tough marketing.

I think $1300 - $1400 is a price point where you will have much better success.

eBay, as much as I don't like to sell on there, has a much higher exposure and if you did a no reserve auction starting at $500, you will find out definitively what the market price is for this cue.

I'm a huge TS fan and I'll bet this cue plays real good. :thumbup:

GL with your sale.

best,
brian kc
 
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IMO, that cue does not look like the typical cue that buyers desire. If it were birdseye maple with loud veneers if would sell for your price. Everyone wants a Balabushka without paying for a Balabushka.
 
Thanks

Thank you everyone for all the input

I am not certain, but I think the joint is yellow micarta.

I got it on a trade, so I do not know if the wrap was done afterwards.

Now, I have few options to consider

Again, thank you for all your comments and insight


Of course more comments are appreciated


Dave
 
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Dave;

One other thing I forgot to mention that may be causing some difficulty is the very light weight of this cue.

According to your specs, the cue weighs 17.5 and 17.7 depending on which shaft is being used.

Is there a missing weight bolt?

If you can get the weight up over18oz, that could make it appealing to more potential buyers.

GL

best,
brian kc
 
Advice taken!

Thanks again to everyone for all the comments and advice.

The cue does have an Allen key below the rubber bumper and the weight is adjustable.

My cue maker tells me that the joint is likely yellow micarta or ivory which has yellowed in the past 30 years or so (most likely micarta)

The blemishes in the butt are under the finish and can not be felt at all; he didn't recommend a refinsh at all. The stingray wrap is really nice but he also agrees likely not original.

Going with the valuable advice offered, my rock bottom price is 1,400 shipped CONUS with a different 4 piece set of JPs (made by Lonnie Wilbur with TS stamped on each piece).

Thanks again fellow AZers

Dave
 
The j/p's help, but I think $1400 is a little high for this market
If the forearm was unstained birdseye or curly maple, maybe $1400-$1500 from a retail standpoint
 
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