Am I missing something?????????

I have been looking at cues lately, on the web, catalogs, and at the pool hall. Im not looking to buy one in particular, I just like to window shop. Anyhow, my question is, how in the hell does Predator move all its production to China, and still charge 1000 bucks for a cue??? Dont tell me the material costs are so high, and thats the reason. I believe we consumers are stupid, yup, we are plain dumb. They take 10 dollars worth of wood and glue, make a fancy, and very effective I might add, shaft and charge us 200+, and we line up to buy it, lol. Yea, I know Im gonna get some flack about this post, but dammit it dont make sense. Its kinda like kissing your cousin, sure it feels good, but it just aint right! And while I'm on my rant, why is it that I can have a custom made, one of a kind shaft made for my cue for about half the cost of a China made shaft? Why do these 200+ dollar chinese super duper shafts seem to have a real warpage problem? You would think that after paying that much money for a shaft that is supposed to be so good, it could at least stay straight! Ok, Im done, bring on the hate, and I will quietly accept it.......

Preaching to the choir man. My dream cue is a Predator and the want 1,100 for it.
 
Well I didnt say Predator was junk, but I would expect their quality control to be a bit better than it is for what we pay for their products. What I am saying is, why would I spend 1000+ on a cue made in a factory in China by some poor bastard that has no idea how bad he is getting screwed, when I can spend the same amount, or even a little less, and get me a custom cue made. Ive seen some Leon Sly cues on here that are far more attractive than most Predator cues, and they are actually cheap enough that I could buy a Predator shaft to go with it, and still pay less. I understand why they moved to china, im not that stupid, but I guess what pisses me off is that we consumers are so dumb(myself included). Like I said, they take 10-20 dollars worth of material, and make a cue, then sell it for an outrageous profit. WE allow that to happen, its like if you give your kid a gallon of ice cream and he eats it all, you cant be mad at him cuz you let him do it. I know there are numerous points of view on this. Chino, this was in no way directed at you, lol. Im not pissed at China, Im pissed at us consumers, including myself. ok, im done. thanks for reading.....

Haha, I know you weren't directing anything at me, no harm done. I just wanted to show it from more of a business man's standpoint rather than just a consumer's standpoint. I think as for quality control wise, we cannot blame the chinese either. I can almost be for sure that Predator sent one of their American employees overseas to watch over the operations and it is Predator who is responsible fore the quality control of their product, not the people who produces it. If top management is not getting on their case about making warped shafts and etc, and let it slip past them, it wouldn't be the worker's fault, but management and quality control's fault. Yes, the worker has a part to play in making the part crappy, but predator being a production cue, many of the process that is required to produce the large quantity of shafts are made by machines. I also completely understand where you are coming from, I feel the same way, because I like 314 shafts, and if I can get it for cheap, I'd jump on one :grin:

Happy shooting! :)

Chino
 
Have you tried to return it and get a replacement? I'm sure they'd swap it. Why wouldn't they?

I could spend all afternoon giving you additional examples outside of beer and refrigeration... if you have IBM notebooks / desktops you'd be familiar with Lenovo who purchased that division of the company. If you're familiar with RCA equipment or Alcatel, it's OEMed by TCL. All made in China, all very good.

Like I said, I hate being a China cheerleader.... because I'm not.... I've spent a lot of time over there and I know what's up.

In my opinion, the only thing where China needs a LOT of help is FOOD. Uhhhh, there ain't General Tso's Chicken in China... catch my drift?

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Take a wild guess what I'm eating in these pics.

This is my last post on the China subject.



My guess is: Dinner
 
I used to import and sell a lot of chinese merchandise and the quality can be as good or as poor as you are willing to pay for.

The cost of production is very low and I am sure predator is making a handsome profit on each cue they sell, I am amazed that they continue to sell cues for such high prices, not too many years ago you couldn't give away an import cue no matter what name was on it.

As for me I will never pay a custom price for an import cue, it just doesn't make sense (for me) but predator makes a fine product and I guess its worth whatever someone is willing to pay.
 
And by the way, their workers arent being taken advantage of. They are working for the going rate in their country. If more jobs keep going over their then their wages will increase do to job openings versus employees. But this could take a while LOL.

I have to agree with Spider on this one.

Woody

you dont think the workers are taken advantage of? lol! Im not gonna get this started, we will just have to agree to disagree.:wink:
 
It was actually a late lunch / early dinner. It's ground-up rabbit, ground-up pigeon, and baby chicks (the whole chick, like a soft-shell crab-- you eat everything, beak and all).
 
Buy U.S.

Wad da Ruk Round Eye...You Pay now...
If you wanty NO Derection shaft...you stop compraning...
If you no buy.... no biggie I go work for Meucci just up road
 
you dont think the workers are taken advantage of? lol! Im not gonna get this started, we will just have to agree to disagree.:wink:

Maybe "not taken advantage of" was not the best wording LOL. I understand what you are saying, and wont dig my hole any deeper trying to explain an already foot in mouth statement :grin-square:

You going to Indy this weekend? If so, look me up, Ill be the one breaking all the time :wink:

Woody
 
Wad da Ruk Round Eye...You Pay now...
If you wanty NO Derection shaft...you stop compraning...
If you no buy.... no biggie I go work for Meucci just up road

All political correctness aside, I laughed for about a solid minute from this post.

I go work for Meucci just up road... Classic , I may put that in my signature.
 
Wad da Ruk Round Eye...You Pay now...
If you wanty NO Derection shaft...you stop compraning...
If you no buy.... no biggie I go work for Meucci just up road

LMFAO I'm chinese and I laughed at that racist remark. So there, I have a good sense of humor now :thumbup: MLK failed lol
 
Maybe "not taken advantage of" was not the best wording LOL. I understand what you are saying, and wont dig my hole any deeper trying to explain an already foot in mouth statement :grin-square:

You going to Indy this weekend? If so, look me up, Ill be the one breaking all the time :wink:

Woody

I might go down there today, but if I do, Ill be going to Golfsmith in Castleton. I gotta get my son a new putter, get his fairway wood cut down, and he needs new golf shoes, ironically all made in china! lol.
 
Because there is a surplus of suckers who will pay that kind of money looking for an instant fix for their game.
They have bought into the BS advertising campaign in lieu of practice.
 
I have been looking at cues lately, on the web, catalogs, and at the pool hall. Im not looking to buy one in particular, I just like to window shop. Anyhow, my question is, how in the hell does Predator move all its production to China, and still charge 1000 bucks for a cue??? Dont tell me the material costs are so high, and thats the reason. I believe we consumers are stupid, yup, we are plain dumb. They take 10 dollars worth of wood and glue, make a fancy, and very effective I might add, shaft and charge us 200+, and we line up to buy it, lol. Yea, I know Im gonna get some flack about this post, but dammit it dont make sense. Its kinda like kissing your cousin, sure it feels good, but it just aint right! And while I'm on my rant, why is it that I can have a custom made, one of a kind shaft made for my cue for about half the cost of a China made shaft? Why do these 200+ dollar chinese super duper shafts seem to have a real warpage problem? You would think that after paying that much money for a shaft that is supposed to be so good, it could at least stay straight! Ok, Im done, bring on the hate, and I will quietly accept it.......

I look at it this way -- some people have more dollars than sense. If you in the first group then you buy no matter the cost or your into the latest fad. The second group looks for a good product at a fair price. Me -- I question both, that is, will it help my game? how much am I willing to pay? Since I'm doubtful on the first part I'll pass.

Rod
 
This is what I have to say on the subject..............................
















Nothing more. The world keeps spinning no matter what we think and quality can come from anywhere.

Peace.
 
This is what I have to say on the subject..............................

Nothing more. The world keeps spinning no matter what we think and quality can come from anywhere.

Peace.

Yes but China is quickly becoming known for poor quality dangerous products.
QA seems to be severely lacking in that country. they seem more than willing to add anything to a product if it will bring a better bottom line even if it kills the people that use it.

I do like the way they deal with the people that do those things though
 
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