*Amazing LED Flat Panels* - the next generation of pool lighting

Still here in Reno. Tons of interest from pool room owners as well as those with home tables.
 
I have mine

Ill post a more detailed review shortly. these lights are the future... Simple install with innovative hanging system.

Brian provides great customer service every step of the way.

i have mine over a 9 foot diamond. No complaints here at all.

Get one , u wont regret it...

To all the heat talk. No sir, no heat what so ever...
 
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How about this situation: I have a 9 foot table in the basement, and the ceiling joists are 4'6" or 54" above the surface of the table. How does the 2x4 light work in that situation? Has anybody tried this or even 2 2x2's at this low a height? Any pics yet from people who have put these in their home?

Also, if there is no light diffuser, how harsh is the light shining in your eyes if you are seated waiting for your turn to play? If the lights are 8' above the table bed like in the pool halls, maybe no problem, but what about just a few feet over the table with no diffuser?
 
How about this situation: I have a 9 foot table in the basement, and the ceiling joists are 4'6" or 54" above the surface of the table. How does the 2x4 light work in that situation? Has anybody tried this or even 2 2x2's at this low a height? Any pics yet from people who have put these in their home?

Also, if there is no light diffuser, how harsh is the light shining in your eyes if you are seated waiting for your turn to play? If the lights are 8' above the table bed like in the pool halls, maybe no problem, but what about just a few feet over the table with no diffuser?

The lights are bright but they don't have the same 'harshness' as traditional lights. It's hard to explain and maybe owing to the fact that there are no UV rays in the light, but even at full brightness you don't really feel oppressed by them. Besides, if you want to you can always install a dimmer and pare it down a little that way.

As for the height issue, that is a little low, and maybe you would be better off with two or even three 2x2 panels. I had an artist draw up this configuration below...

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The perspective is a little off in the drawing as all the panels are supposed to be the same size, but you should get the idea. The effect of using the angled outside lights is to simulate Three Point Lighting as used in photography. This will help get light under the balls, which heretofore has been impossible using traditional light.
 
The lights are bright but they don't have the same 'harshness' as traditional lights. It's hard to explain and maybe owing to the fact that there are no UV rays in the light, but even at full brightness you don't really feel oppressed by them. Besides, if you want to you can always install a dimmer and pare it down a little that way.

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OK, thanks. I got a deal on a GC5 and refinished Brunswick light so I think I'm just going to go that route. I like the look of the light and it goes well with the table. Maybe down the road I can retrofit your lights inside if there appears to be a need.
 
Realize that I'm a bit late to this conversation, but I just joined AZB. I'm very intrigued by the LED panels, but I have a similar situation to one of the other respondents . . . Residential basement with unfinished ceiling (floor joists) with galvanized ductwork. I have a 50" span between table bed and bottom of ducts. It would be helpful to have specifics about the spread of the light from the panels at 4' down from the actual LED . . . In photo metric language. Also, can you provide a photo of the hanging mechanism and of the lenses or diffusers that cover the LEDs? Finally, what is the country of origin for the LEDs?

Thanks.
 
Ill post a more detailed review shortly. these lights are the future... Simple install with innovative hanging system.

Brian provides great customer service every step of the way.

i have mine over a 9 foot diamond. No complaints here at all.

Get one , u wont regret it...

To all the heat talk. No sir, no heat what so ever...

I was and still am interested in your detailed review. Take your time, I know how it is.. Life, work, playing pool up under your awesome new light. You know the priorities in life etc.
 
If you don't have time for a formal review, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could jot down your thoughts and hit me via pm.

Thanks in advance!!!
 
I'm basically sold, here. Particularly based on the testimony of one of the guys upthread who has shot under these lights. And because hey, Brian's a shooter, not (merely) some electrician who cooked up a bright idea.

I have just put a 9-footer in my den - like, last weekend - and for the moment I'm shooting under the standard ceiling fan with the 5 incandescent light bulbs shooting out in all directions from that. Yeah. Kinda sux for pool. But I figured I'd deal with the pool light question after getting the table in the house.

But here's my question. Hooking it up to house current. What's the deal here, is there some kind of transformer on the top side of the light board, where you just hook up your three strands, or what? Are there extra parts I'm gonna need? I'm savvy with house electric basics (not so much with LED).

In particular I'm liking the idea of suspending this light with aircraft cable or the like, so that to the casual glance it looks like it's just floating in air. If the transformer (or whatever) is on the light, I'm supposing the current draw is so low you could use very thin electrical wire so as to keep the visual part of this down to a minimum.

So... Brian, please enlighten me.
 
I'm basically sold, here. Particularly based on the testimony of one of the guys upthread who has shot under these lights. And because hey, Brian's a shooter, not (merely) some electrician who cooked up a bright idea.

I have just put a 9-footer in my den - like, last weekend - and for the moment I'm shooting under the standard ceiling fan with the 5 incandescent light bulbs shooting out in all directions from that. Yeah. Kinda sux for pool. But I figured I'd deal with the pool light question after getting the table in the house.

But here's my question. Hooking it up to house current. What's the deal here, is there some kind of transformer on the top side of the light board, where you just hook up your three strands, or what? Are there extra parts I'm gonna need? I'm savvy with house electric basics (not so much with LED).

In particular I'm liking the idea of suspending this light with aircraft cable or the like, so that to the casual glance it looks like it's just floating in air. If the transformer (or whatever) is on the light, I'm supposing the current draw is so low you could use very thin electrical wire so as to keep the visual part of this down to a minimum.

So... Brian, please enlighten me.


I can help a bit
There is a low voltage transformer or driver that is supplied with line voltage
From the driver to the led panel is wired with small guage 2 conductor wire 18-24 guage.
This can be tied to your hanging cables with zip ties and is very unobtrusive.
 
Darcy is correct. Neither the panel nor the transformer give off any real heat either, so you can mount the box in your ceiling if you want to hide it. No need to worry about heat management. The cable running for the light to the transformer is very thin and unobtrusive.
 
Good to know, from both of you. Brian, I'll be emailing you or PM-ing to see about putting in an order, but it won't be tonight, It's round 1 of APA playoffs tonight for me (I'm much less a pro like you guys, more like a well-motivated every-man). But you'll hear directly.

This is exactly what I was looking for.
 
... and because they're so bright you can also hang them quite a bit higher than normal, which opens up your space a lot better.

These sound like they're worth checking out. How do they work in a home environment with a not-very-high ceiling (approximately 7.5' ceilings)? While I do like a lot of light, I don't want to be blinded by the light. :)
 
And, while I'm asking questions, is there a diffusor or frame to keep us from going blind when looking at the table from the side?
 
And, while I'm asking questions, is there a diffusor or frame to keep us from going blind when looking at the table from the side?

You won't find it very blinding. The white covering acts as its own diffuser. They are bright lights but LED is just easier on the eyes than traditional light, owing to the absence of any UV rays.

If you find you want some diffusing, you can always add something aftermarket. Very easy to do, though in my opinion not necessary.


As for your 7.5' height, that's exactly the level we have them hung at in the pool room I frequent. It works just fine.
 
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You won't find it very blinding. The white covering acts as its own diffuser. They are bright lights but LED is just easier on the eyes than traditional light, owing to the absence of any UV rays.

If you find you want some diffusing, you can always add something aftermarket. Very easy to do, though in my opinion not necessary.


As for your 7.5' height, that's exactly the level we have them hung at in the pool room I frequent. It works just fine.

Any chance you'd gonna become a gold member to support the site your selling on for free?
 
As for your 7.5' height, that's exactly the level we have them hung at in the pool room I frequent. It works just fine.

So I would mount this directly to the ceiling (versus dropping wires). Sounds tempting. I'll cogitate on this a while and likely order one from you at some point. Thanks for the answers.
 
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