24 players who qualify get minimum $700 prizemoneyDo the already qualified players have any incentive to win their final matches? More money? Better seeding?
Wow, Worst call I’ve ever seen. Darren was the one who clearly slammed his cue on the table after he realized the balls were going to be re-racked but Corey was the one called for the unsportsmanlike foul for his cue tip barely touching the table surface (and it’s not even clear if it did) after his scratch.that was, as far as table abuse is concerned, a very mild "slam of the cue".. weird situation, as it hurt darren the most in the end
I think the ref thought that Corey hit a ball when he waived his cue after he scratched, although clearly he did not.Wow, Worst call I’ve ever seen. Darren was the one who clearly slammed his cue on the table after he realized the balls were going to be re-racked but Corey was the one called for the unsportsmanlike foul for his cue tip barely touching the table surface (and it’s not even clear if it did) after his scratch.
Seems like the ref should have reviewed the video before making a final determination.I think the ref thought that Corey hit a ball when he waived his cue after he scratched, although clearly he did not.
Yeah, a tournament of this magnitude with this level of players loses a lot of its legitimacy with me when you see a premature erroneous call like this, which certainly could have affected the outcome of this match.Seems like the ref should have reviewed the video before making a final determination.
It looks to me like many of the Digital Pool match lengths ("Duration") are off by quite a bit. That He/Alcaide match 15 hours spartan noticed seems to have resulted by putting AM instead of PM on the finishing time in the system, thereby adding 12 hours to the length. So that was probably just a keying mistake. But many of the other times are off, some by a lot. I don't know how they are determining the starting time and ending time for each match, but I think the "Duration" stat from them is not reliable as a measure of the actual length of the match.There were few matches more than 3 hrs and top 2 longest matches involved Tom Czaplicki. Average number of seconds per ball for top 2 longest matches is 80 seconds. Tony Drago ran out a nine ball rack (8 balls in 52 seconds) against Earl while these boys here took at least 52 seconds just for 1 ball.
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Mario He v Alcaide is listed as 15 hrs long so must be error unless they fell asleep while playing...
Well, it is unknowable what would have happened if Appleton had been given BIH after Deuel's scratch. Nothing would have been the same, including his mental state.Yeah, a tournament of this magnitude with this level of players loses a lot of its legitimacy with me when you see a premature erroneous call like this, which certainly could have affected the outcome of this match.
Regardless, Darren still would likely have won if he’d executed a near ideal break shot on his last shot, so really there’s no need for him to dwell on how this referee’s bogus call cost him this match.
It would be possible to set the end time by when 125 is reached.... I don't know how they are determining the starting time and ending time for each match, but I think the "Duration" stat from them is not reliable as a measure of the actual length of the match.
Go to americanstraightpool.com and click on "MEN'S ROUND ROBIN."... DigitalPool seems not to have the bracket summaries or am I looking in the wrong place?
It looks like the ref does not know the rules. Also when the match starts Darren swings his stick like a baseball bat (who is the ref trying to punish)?Here's a YouTube video with the Deuel/Appleton match. The debated point is at about 51:55. Anyone see anything meriting Karl's call?
Also early at the start of the match Darren swings his cue like a bat after a missWow, Worst call I’ve ever seen. Darren was the one who clearly slammed his cue on the table after he realized the balls were going to be re-racked but Corey was the one called for the unsportsmanlike foul for his cue tip barely touching the table surface (and it’s not even clear if it did) after his scratch.
Go to americanstraightpool.com and click on "MEN'S ROUND ROBIN."
Did you continue to watch the clip till after the re-break..? It wasn't an unsportman's like call. It was a foul called on Deuel because he manipulated balls with his cue during/after his shot prior to the re-rack.It looks like the ref does not know the rules. Also when the match starts Darren swings his stick like a baseball bat (who is the ref trying to punish)?
Strange indeed
Not to me. The BCA rules are mentioning a deliberate foul. Whatever happened appeared to be a normal foul.Did you continue to watch the clip till after the re-break..? It wasn't an unsportman's like call. It was a foul called on Deuel because he manipulated balls with his cue during/after his shot prior to the re-rack.
Although I don't know the finer rules of 14.1, it seems rather clean to me
What rules are they playing?Not to me. The BCA rules are mentioning a deliberate foul. Whatever happened appeared to be a normal foul.
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Indeed. The Velvet Foghorn.
Perhaps the greatest nickname in pool.
I must have missed that. It looked to me like there was no foul by Deuel other than the scratch....Did you continue to watch the clip till after the re-break..? It wasn't an unsportman's like call. It was a foul called on Deuel because he manipulated balls with his cue during/after his shot prior to the re-rack.