It would seem like a lot of wasted energy over the course of a long day.I love straight pool but watching John Morra taking 18, long, slow, pre-lim strokes on a 6 inch
bunt shot frys my nerves. Great player, can't watch it.
It would seem like a lot of wasted energy over the course of a long day.I love straight pool but watching John Morra taking 18, long, slow, pre-lim strokes on a 6 inch
bunt shot frys my nerves. Great player, can't watch it.
The player on the right appears to be slow playing his opponent on purpose. I can understand looking at a couple different shots, but chalking doesn't take 60 seconds.Did someone say, Peter Ebdon? Many of today's players are quick except in really tough situations. Like Ronnie. Compare and contrast:
As for 14.1, it's possible to use a shot clock. Maybe they should.
Interesting to we'uns old enough to remember, when any 14.1 commentator -- possessed with a Grady-level of experience -- would say "he'll do x next" referring to one of that era's full-fields of competitively well-seasoned 14.1 players at the table . . . he'd be absolutely correct more than 90 percent of the time.I'm happy for them to talk about the players' options and the pros and cons of different patterns, but they do seem to love the phrasing of "he'll do X next" and then are very often wrong.
Johnny Ervolino was absurdly good at this in his commentary for the West v Zuglan match at the 92 US Open.Interesting to we'uns old enough to remember, when any 14.1 commentator -- possessed with a Grady-level of experience -- would say "he'll do x next" referring to one of that era's full-fields of competitively well-seasoned 14.1 players at the table . . . he'd be absolutely correct more than 90 percent of the time.
Can't reliably predict what even world-class rotation players will do most of the time until the unique, essential, and optimal logic of 14.1 has fully entered their fund of rack navigation instincts. And with good reason, that can't happen when they're only exposed to major 14.1 competitions once or twice a year. The quite understandable mindset is "Why practice 14.1 intensely when the prize money lies elsewhere (in many dozens of tempting rotation tournaments)".
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Jimmy Fusco called Ervolino "the man who knew everything about pool."Johnny Ervolino was absurdly good at this in his commentary for the West v Zuglan match at the 92 US Open.
He called Dallas pattern like 8 balls ahead.
But Johnny is gone and Dallas’ style of play is not what you’ll see most likely.
Well said, Lou. Our requirements as viewers may differ from those of the more casual fan.
Johnny Ervolino was absurdly good at this in his commentary for the West v Zuglan match at the 92 US Open.
He called Dallas pattern like 8 balls ahead.
But Johnny is gone and Dallas’ style of play is not what you’ll see most likely.
We just had a thread about the chalking championships. I think the winner was 24 times before shooting.... but chalking doesn't take 60 seconds.![]()
Ervolino had the most gravelly voice I've ever heard!Johnny Ervolino was absurdly good at this in his commentary for the West v Zuglan match at the 92 US Open.
He called Dallas pattern like 8 balls ahead.
But Johnny is gone and Dallas’ style of play is not what you’ll see most likely.
Indeed. The Velvet Foghorn.Ervolino had the most gravelly voice I've ever heard!
Not me. Best I can tell is it looked like Karl thought he hit an object ball with the cue.Here's a YouTube video with the Deuel/Appleton match. The debated point is at about 51:55. Anyone see anything meriting Karl's call?
I think Corey double hit on his follow through?Here's a YouTube video with the Deuel/Appleton match. The debated point is at about 51:55. Anyone see anything meriting Karl's call?
I don’t see that but - but I doubt karl would hit him with 15 and a Re rack if that’s what he thought he saw.I think Corey double hit on his follow through?
The re-rack rule seems illogical in this circumstance- even though Corey lost 15 points, it victimized Darren as well- he would have run out that rack and perhaps beyondHere's a YouTube video with the Deuel/Appleton match. The debated point is at about 51:55. Anyone see anything meriting Karl's call?
The first time I ever saw Ervolino play was at Chelsea Billiards in NYC. He was supposed to play some young kid at 9-ball, and he was warming up on a back table. He waited a long time for the kid to show up, and when he finally did he walked right up to Ervolino and said "You're gonna get a game tonight Johnny!" I was expecting some awesome action, but instead the kid walked halfway across the room, sat down and ate a sandwich. Ervolino was getting more and more pissed off as the kid wasn't coming over to play, and he starting cussing and slamming the balls. After a while I turned to the guy next to me and asked if they were actually going to play, and he said yeah, just not tonight. Apparently the kid was playing mind games with Ervolino and trying to get into his head for when they did play. The kid eventually just got up and walked out of the room. I wish I knew who the kid was but I never did find out or get to see them play.Johnny Ervolino was absurdly good at this in his commentary for the West v Zuglan match at the 92 US Open.
He called Dallas pattern like 8 balls ahead.
But Johnny is gone and Dallas’ style of play is not what you’ll see most likely.
I think the ref claimed that when Corey waved his cue back and forth after scratching he hit a ball with his cue. That clearly did not happen though.I think Corey double hit on his follow through?