Episode 2, some good stuff. Seems there been a lot of good instructional stuff posted recently,
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Thanks, I had been waiting for the 2nd one to drop
Love Hunter Lombardo. His attitude, his calm and collectiveness, his fundamentals. He is a fine ambassador for pool. Been one of my personal favorites for several years now.
What solidified my opinion of him was when he hugged Johnny Archer after losing a late-round (hot seat?) match at Turning Stone last year, losing to a player he had a great respect for and outwardly showing it.
That showed me what a classy guy he is.
I am looking forward to the next episode. Good stuff.
Maniac
What solidified my opinion of him was when he hugged Johnny Archer after losing a late-round (hot seat?) match at Turning Stone last year, losing to a player he had a great respect for and outwardly showing it.
That showed me what a classy guy he is.
I am looking forward to the next episode. Good stuff.
Maniac
Yes, that was the semifinal match at TS XXX (August 2018). Archer won 9-7, leaving Lombardo in 3rd place, and then Archer lost to SVB in the finals.
Holy combovers! :grin: I should talk, I'm half bald.
Watched both videos, that's great stuff.
It's gonna be hard for Rollie imo, it's gonna be a complete destruction of his game as he knows it, w a complete rebuild.
Just the bridge changes alone are old habits to break and new to learn. I saw him regressing in the first vid.
I'm sure his stance will be worked on as well as his approach and set-up.
That's tough to relearn.
I remember when I got back into pool and was playing 20-30 hrs a week. I had somebody who was really good give me a few things to focus on. Screwed my game up for a month.
This is a great lesson, if you're new to pool and you've been bitten by the bug, get professional lessons to set a foundation, before bad habits get instilled. And I'm more of a results over procedure kinda guy.
Lee Trevino had a great game and a terrible swing, v few Lee Trevinos out there.
We've been having some good instruction stuff on AZB lately, this is great, Tin Man, Mark Wilson videos, can't give enough thanks to Dr Dave. I've been a member here for a good amount of time, this has been the best educational and in depth look at pool I've seen maybe ever. Seems less bickering and needling of other members too, of course, that will never die.
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Watched both videos, that's great stuff.
It's gonna be hard for Rollie imo, it's gonna be a complete destruction of his game as he knows it, w a complete rebuild.
Just the bridge changes alone are old habits to break and new to learn. I saw him regressing in the first vid.
I'm sure his stance will be worked on as well as his approach and set-up.
That's tough to relearn.
I remember when I got back into pool and was playing 20-30 hrs a week. I had somebody who was really good give me a few things to focus on. Screwed my game up for a month.
This is a great lesson, if you're new to pool and you've been bitten by the bug, get professional lessons to set a foundation, before bad habits get instilled. And I'm more of a results over procedure kinda guy.
Lee Trevino had a great game and a terrible swing, v few Lee Trevinos out there.
We've been having some good instruction stuff on AZB lately, this is great, Tin Man, Mark Wilson videos, can't give enough thanks to Dr Dave. I've been a member here for a good amount of time, this has been the best educational and in depth look at pool I've seen maybe ever. Seems less bickering and needling of other members too, of course, that will never die.
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I wish that Ralph Eckert train Ronnie! He is probably best pool coach ever.
Dr Dave should participate in those big tournaments to show his skills in real world
I wish that Ralph Eckert train Ronnie! He is probably best pool coach ever.
Dr Dave should participate in those big tournaments to show his skills in real world
I wish that Ralph Eckert train Ronnie! He is probably best pool coach ever.
Dr Dave should participate in those big tournaments to show his skills in real world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SCrnKxi79E
seen?
animatedvmaker
Banned
I would like to start off by saying that I like Hunter Lombardo. I think he is a really solid player. He said that he is ranked 5th or 6th in the US, but is that true? I think not.
A few thoughts about the video.
At 6:20, I wonder why Hunter did not tell him that it would be best to use an open hand bridge, playing off of the rail, with the cue ball being that close to the rail. In that situation, the closed finger bridge that he used was completely wrong.
In that situation, a player can see and aim the shot much better with an open hand bridge, off of the rail.
He made the shot, but it just looked horrible, and completely wrong in my opinion.
Also, why was Hunter asking him about why he used a certain open bridge hand style?
He was right to try to fix where the players thumb should be, on an open hand bridge, but other then that, the bridge that players use just comes natural with practice.
It is good to learn how to use a good proper bridge, and good solid bridge styles, but other then that, I did not see an issue with the rest of the players open hand bridge.
Just so it is a solid bridge, do what ever comes natural with your other fingers.
I also did not understand the lesson about the tip needing to be so close to the cue ball, during the aiming and stroke process.
Other then that, I agree with some other parts of the lesson that he gave.
I still think that the lesson could have been better though.
A few thoughts about the video.
At 6:20, I wonder why Hunter did not tell him that it would be best to use an open hand bridge, playing off of the rail, with the cue ball being that close to the rail. In that situation, the closed finger bridge that he used was completely wrong.
In that situation, a player can see and aim the shot much better with an open hand bridge, off of the rail.
He made the shot, but it just looked horrible, and completely wrong in my opinion.
Also, why was Hunter asking him about why he used a certain open bridge hand style?
He was right to try to fix where the players thumb should be, on an open hand bridge, but other then that, the bridge that players use just comes natural with practice.
It is good to learn how to use a good proper bridge, and good solid bridge styles, but other then that, I did not see an issue with the rest of the players open hand bridge.
Just so it is a solid bridge, do what ever comes natural with your other fingers.
I also did not understand the lesson about the tip needing to be so close to the cue ball, during the aiming and stroke process.
Other then that, I agree with some other parts of the lesson that he gave.
I still think that the lesson could have been better though.
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I just saw the beginning footage, and Ronnie will be fortunate to win more than 3 games in a race to 11 at Mandalay.
Kinda reminded me of the Collegiate 14.1 events and going to Wisconsin for a pool lesson with Sailor of Racine. Then collegiate events, then competing at Johnston City against against the best players from the Lassiter, Irving Crane, Joe Balsis, Boston Shorty Generation at the young age of 19. Not easy to play in the pit, but those moments harden you for the road ahead.
Because, you need to start somewhere. It's also known as the "set" position. What better place than at the cue ball. If you are going to hit that "spot" on the cue ball, and you only want to hit that spot, you need to aim at that spot, and that's getting close to that spot.
And your practice strokes are to mirror your shooting stroke. If you are not bringing the tip to the cue ball during the practice strokes, you are not really mirroring the shooting stroke. And thus, the practice strokes are just a "nervous" habit without much meaning.
Most instructors teach this. Watch a lot of pro's doing that as well, especially Alison Fisher.
I was hoping for a lot more tbh. I don’t know what exactly but this is pretty simple stuff that Rollie should’ve learned 8-9 times over in the lessons with pros he’s already done.
I like the idea of capturing a concerted prep for a big tournament but it’s like a month away, not the time to be breaking someone’s game down to the fundamentals. He should be learning how to badass around the table
I like the idea of capturing a concerted prep for a big tournament but it’s like a month away, not the time to be breaking someone’s game down to the fundamentals. He should be learning how to badass around the table
It a chicken and egg type thing, I guess. How can you be bad ass at the table if you have poor fundamentals?
Practice lol.
He plays decent pool already. I think if he was training for next year he should start from the bottom up. But he’s been playing pool a while, so changing his ingrained habits at the fundamental level will take that 2-5 week adjustment period to really set in and even then any major changes made will probably break down under high pressure.
The stuff he has worked on has been simple enough stuff and good to know I’m just hoping he moves on to other things about 9 ball specifically
I’ve been playing for years and I’ll say that I’ve never heard anyone mention the “fulcrum line” on the bridge hand. I tried searching for it elsewhere but couldn’t find anything. Does anyone here use that bridge technique or know of someone that does? It seems to work but it’s a little uncomfortable at first. I also like the idea of draping yourself over the table, it really does make it easier to stay down.
I also started putting my tip closer to the cue ball when setting up and have been getting way better accuracy, especially on the break. Funny how long I’ve been playing I’ve heard so many things, but have never heard these few simple, super effective tips until just now. I’m curious as to why these few things aren’t mentioned in any of the other media on fundamentals that I’ve read or watched over the years?
I also started putting my tip closer to the cue ball when setting up and have been getting way better accuracy, especially on the break. Funny how long I’ve been playing I’ve heard so many things, but have never heard these few simple, super effective tips until just now. I’m curious as to why these few things aren’t mentioned in any of the other media on fundamentals that I’ve read or watched over the years?
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Every instructor explains things within their own vocabulary/upbringing and social structure range.
Every instructor was either taught by another instructor, or blazed their own trail and used their own wording and ways in which to explain their thoughts and ideas.
Many great players never had instruction....how they go about helping others is quite different when asked questions. How they explain their thoughts & processes is never the same as the rest.
SPF is one way to explain pool, I'm sure in Snooker they don't use that expression at all. Who's right/wrong....neither. But when one takes sides, it's usually the one in the middle that is the one to be concerned about.
I learned to teach from experience and watching and listening.
One of thee most helpful things I realized was getting to know the person whom you were instructing FIRST. Why? If you were to explain a concept to a Navajo, then a brick layer, then a card player, then an airline pilot, would they all understand one point of view the same way. Impossible. You need to realize where they are coming from first, before you can be truly helpful to your student.
animatedvmaker
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If he has already had instruction from other pros, then I wonder why they did not help him with a better, more solid bridge hand.
I never had any instruction. I learned by watching the better players in my local pool room, and I tried my best to copy their style of playing.
If he has already been playing awhile, then he should have already had a more solid bridge hand.
I grew up watching Johnny Archer, in the 90's, and loved his style of play. He was my favorite player, as a teenager. Would try my best to copy everything about the way he played.