Analysis of the GREATEST POOL MATCH of All Time – Sigel vs. Varner

Thanx for trying, Doc.....if I ever get back to a pool hall, I’m going to try it...between snooker and 3-cushion, I feel comfortable thin-cutting with a lot of english....but only doing it will tell.

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Jeff Livingston
 
How can you differentiate a player who is dumping versus one who is simply wilting under pressure?

Until you can answer that 100% correctly, and I don't believe any of us can, I tend to believe we shouldn't make these accusations.

Also, there is a big difference between a savor and a dump. I can believe that many top pros make savers. Most don't dump matches.
Well everybody has to be free to form an opinion, and in my opinion (and others as well as was the person next me) that’s what I saw happen in the match I described. Yes it’s true you can never be 100 percent certain but a Jay said sometimes it just doesn’t pass the smell test, and the match I saw qualified in this regard.
 
Well everybody has to be free to form an opinion, and in my opinion (and others as well as was the person next me) that’s what I saw happen in the match I described. Yes it’s true you can never be 100 percent certain but a Jay said sometimes it just doesn’t pass the smell test, and the match I saw qualified in this regard.
You do know that this loss greatly affected Sigel’s career, right?
 
One last comment I'd like to add to this thread. Often when a player is dumping a match for whatever reason he feels absolutely no pressure, and will have trouble missing a ball because of it. He can play free and easy because he's not supposed to win, free wheeling in other words. I've witnessed several "dumps" where the guy doing the dumping is running out with ease and the supposed winner of the match is struggling because of it. He is the one feeling all the pressure. Of course the more he struggles the madder he becomes and he may direct some of that anger at his opponent. Weird how that works. It actually takes some degree of skill to make a dump look like a real match. These comments do not pertain to any particular match, including the one shown here between Sigel and Varner. I seriously doubt that Nick was ever involved in any kind of dump in his career. But could there have been a saver going on here? I would say definitely yes.
 
One last comment I'd like to add to this thread. Often when a player is dumping a match for whatever reason he feels absolutely no pressure, and will have trouble missing a ball because of it. He can play free and easy because he's not supposed to win, free wheeling in other words. I've witnessed several "dumps" where the guy doing the dumping is running out with ease and the supposed winner of the match is struggling because of it. He is the one feeling all the pressure. Of course the more he struggles the madder he becomes and he may direct some of that anger at his opponent. Weird how that works. It actually takes some degree of skill to make a dump look like a real match. These comments do not pertain to any particular match, including the one shown here between Sigel and Varner. I seriously doubt that Nick was ever involved in any kind of dump in his career. But could there have been a saver going on here? I would say definitely yes.
Excellent points,
 
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