john hager owes money to the same person, otis thompson is who andy owes the money to, he loaned it to him to start a poker room that did not succeed and let him borrow extra while he was waiting to recieve internet money. I know andy and the people who he was around and there is alot more to your dumb story then what you printed, and since it sounds like you dont have a clue about anything andy was one of the millions who had a decent amount of money locked up on the internet that he was trying to cash off..1k to find him lol, who do you think you are tony soprano lmfao? I have known andy a long time and he always has paid his debts, how do you think he got to borrow the 40k? and get your facts straight he got loanded 40 not 35. I wouldnt waste my time talking about people i didnt know and situations were i didnt know the facts. Sounds to me like Conyers,GA is were all the maggotts are.