I enjoy playing BCA 8-ball on a team. However, two of my teammates seem to think they know everything about barbox 8-ball. The funny thing is, they rarely win matches, and most of the time when they do win, they get lucky because their opponent screws up and leaves them easy. Last season, neither one of them had a break and run, for the whole season. I had twelve. Yet, whenever I make a mistake, fail to run out, etc., they are always quick to critisize me. They both have this ridiculous philosphy about safety play. They would rather play some stupid soft safety instead of going for a moderately difficult run out. They never think ahead. For example, they will play safeties which might leave their opponent no shot, but they leave a very easy return safe, and as a result they end up losing. I am very careful of this. I always look and see what my opponent can do from where I am planning to play safe. If I don't like it, I will try to run out. Last season I had a 75% win ratio, both of them were below 50%. They are extremely hard headed, but think they are gods with infinite knowledge of the game. They are getting so annoying that I am considering quitting the team. Is it just me or are there alot of pool players out there just like them? They are extremely critical of everyone else, but never themselves. They always have an excuse for losing. Ugh!!
Annoying Teammates
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trust me...you arent the only one....
they are everywhere.....blaming this or that for missing or losing, everything except the fact that they were in control of the table and their own destiny with the decisions they made...hindsight is 20/20 ya know
i was sharked by a fly the other nite....as soon as i pulled back to put the trigger stroke on the cue ball....a fly landed on my bridge hand and completely distracted me and i lost focus and missed....
i never thought that could//would happen, but if it happens again, i wont loose focus,,,,,because thats why i missed. I LOST FOCUS>...
i once saw Cory Deuel miss ball in hand...how does a pro miss ball in hand with a stop shot???? he either took it for granted completely or just lost focus....
the Monks book 'point the way' is a REALLY good book in this respect....maybe you should get a copy for your teammates!!
its well worth the money spent....and hang in there!!!!!
they are everywhere.....blaming this or that for missing or losing, everything except the fact that they were in control of the table and their own destiny with the decisions they made...hindsight is 20/20 ya know
i was sharked by a fly the other nite....as soon as i pulled back to put the trigger stroke on the cue ball....a fly landed on my bridge hand and completely distracted me and i lost focus and missed....
i never thought that could//would happen, but if it happens again, i wont loose focus,,,,,because thats why i missed. I LOST FOCUS>...
i once saw Cory Deuel miss ball in hand...how does a pro miss ball in hand with a stop shot???? he either took it for granted completely or just lost focus....
the Monks book 'point the way' is a REALLY good book in this respect....maybe you should get a copy for your teammates!!
its well worth the money spent....and hang in there!!!!!
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scruggsinhand said:trust me...you arent the only one....
they are everywhere.....blaming this or that for missing or losing, everything except the fact that they were in control of the table and their own destiny with the decisions they made...hindsight is 20/20 ya know
i was sharked by a fly the other nite....as soon as i pulled back to put the trigger stroke on the cue ball....a fly landed on my bridge hand and completely distracted me and i lost focus and missed....
i never thought that could//would happen, but if it happens again, i wont loose focus,,,,,because thats why i missed. I LOST FOCUS>...
i once saw Cory Deuel miss ball in hand...how does a pro miss ball in hand with a stop shot???? he either took it for granted completely or just lost focus....
the Monks book 'point the way' is a REALLY good book in this respect....maybe you should get a copy for your teammates!!
Good point. As for the Monks book, I don't think I would ever spend a dime on any of his material. I think he is full of b.s. Thats just my opinion.
I know what you mean. In fact I changed what pool club I go to completely because of it.
Alot of mediocore players think they are "all that" when really when watching them play, they look like amatuers.
They run around the table, not thinking 3 shots ahead, slamming balls in, getting lucky postion (rolls, nudges) and it drives me mad.
At least when I miss I know why, either concentration, poor line up etc.. and I do blame myself for my miss (even though this can make your game worse for that current match!)..
Alot of mediocore players think they are "all that" when really when watching them play, they look like amatuers.
They run around the table, not thinking 3 shots ahead, slamming balls in, getting lucky postion (rolls, nudges) and it drives me mad.
At least when I miss I know why, either concentration, poor line up etc.. and I do blame myself for my miss (even though this can make your game worse for that current match!)..
I think that we all have had teammates that were like that.I have two on my team now,I just kind of laugh at them and keep on running racks to keep us in the match.I do have to say for some strange reason we keep winning our league and go to the state tournament,we always seem to play very well at states and have finished in the money the last three years that we have played together.I am always thinking about leaving the team,and then I stay.I have tried to work with them and help them but they seem to know every thing.I offer to give them some tapes to help there game or books but they wont have any of that.They will not even show up to practice with the rest of the team.I just keep telling my self it is only one night a week and it will be ok.
cuetechasaurus said:
Is one of them the captain? If not, the captain needs to step in and tell them that being so critical all the time is bad for the team, and that they should direct their attention to helping themselves get better, not nagging their teammates. If one of them is the captain, you need to find a better team. I've been playing on an APA team for two years now, and the only guy on the team that was ever the least bit too critical quit a year ago, and even when he was our captain, he was still a likeable guy. There are teams out there with no a**holes on them, you may just need to shop around.
-Andrew
My Tuesday night league is like that. I'm a "permanent sub" for 2 guys that cant shoot to save their life, which in turn drags me down after watching the score sheet plummet.
By the end of the night I'm just banging balls around wanting to get it over so I can go home. Last Tuesday I was so distraught I played a game one handed not caring the outcome and won 10-2.
Was kind of poetic justice since the guy I was playing and myself had a altercation the week before in Wednesday nights league.
That fecking fly cost me $$!
By the end of the night I'm just banging balls around wanting to get it over so I can go home. Last Tuesday I was so distraught I played a game one handed not caring the outcome and won 10-2.
Was kind of poetic justice since the guy I was playing and myself had a altercation the week before in Wednesday nights league.scruggsinhand said:i was sharked by a fly the other nite....as soon as i pulled back to put the trigger stroke on the cue ball....a fly landed on my bridge hand and completely distracted me and i lost focus and missed....
That fecking fly cost me $$!
I'm so with you
It wasn't my teammate, but a guy I was warming up with prior to league.
He proceeded to tell me all the things I did wrong, while I was making shots and finishing racks (9-ball)! If I missed a shot, he say, "See what I mean". Then he would proceed to make one ball, then miss the next position or shot completely.
The good news, I played him in the league match and blanked him. But, since I'm a gracious winner, I simply shook his hand and said better luck next week.
I try to avoid anyone offering unsolicited advice. If I need help, I'm not too proud to ask. And while I'm always trying to learn and improve, some would-be teachers aren't really as helpful as they think.
It wasn't my teammate, but a guy I was warming up with prior to league.
He proceeded to tell me all the things I did wrong, while I was making shots and finishing racks (9-ball)! If I missed a shot, he say, "See what I mean". Then he would proceed to make one ball, then miss the next position or shot completely.
The good news, I played him in the league match and blanked him. But, since I'm a gracious winner, I simply shook his hand and said better luck next week.
I try to avoid anyone offering unsolicited advice. If I need help, I'm not too proud to ask. And while I'm always trying to learn and improve, some would-be teachers aren't really as helpful as they think.
42NateBaller said:
Perhaps what cuetech needs is a suggestion for a polite rebuttal when people offer unsolicited advice or criticism. Any suggestions here?
My Polite rebuttal ...
'When you win percentage is greater than mine, you can make suggestions, until then, keep your mouth shut'.
'You obviously have more work to do with your own game than I do, so you should be listening to me, not vica versa'.
'If you can't take my money, I can not take your advice'.
'Although I appreciate suggestions sometimes, I do not appreciate it ALL THE TIME'.
and always, the team captain shouild be one of the 2 best players on the team. Anything less is chaos, and confusion on the team.
Team players have to come up in the ranks, just like in the service.
'When you win percentage is greater than mine, you can make suggestions, until then, keep your mouth shut'.
'You obviously have more work to do with your own game than I do, so you should be listening to me, not vica versa'.
'If you can't take my money, I can not take your advice'.
'Although I appreciate suggestions sometimes, I do not appreciate it ALL THE TIME'.
and always, the team captain shouild be one of the 2 best players on the team. Anything less is chaos, and confusion on the team.
Team players have to come up in the ranks, just like in the service.
lawolverine
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Had this happen to me Wed. night. My opp broke mad a ball and made 2 more then miss. I was running out when I got to my last ball. I look at the top english shot just to check it out. I was always gonna shoot this shot with draw.(I much rather drawing) When I look at the top english a teammate yelled out "pull it back". After I ran out my opp went to our captain and said thats coaching and i am protesting this game. I understand his arguement, but our rule book says they have to give our team a warning and if it happens again then its lost of turn. So after the match we all told this team if he does that again hes gone.
"How long did it take you to become a BCA certified instructor?"
"Oh, your not certified?"
"Oh, your not certified?"
Snapshot9 said:
Any and/or all of these three will work. Very good advice Snapshot9.
In Golf magazine they had a list of 10 things NOT to do while Golfing, one excerpt was about coaching other players:
If your driver's license doesn't say "David Ledbetter", keep your swing advice to yourself.
If your driver's license doesn't say "David Ledbetter", keep your swing advice to yourself.
Andrew Manning said:
LOL, exactly. First two years i was on a team that had players like this, and didn't get very far in the leagues, last year i switched up to a different team and we won the tournament for the leagues. Just got tired of having to be the source to fall back on, now i don't have too as my whole team know the higher percentage shots, take'em and know the game and what takes to win matches.
cuetechasaurus said:
I'm surprised that your skill on the table hasn't shut them up. Are they friends of yours? If not, then maybe you should quit the team.
On my team, I have a couple of teammates who cannot stop talking about what shot they like or would take if they were shooting. Yes, it still bugs me, but I think that it's simply their nature, and in the end, back and forth discussion is a learning tool for them. I like to think they absorb something I have to say once in a while.
Fred
Heres my experience.
I have always perfered gambling over tourn or leagues. A few years ago a co worker "tricked" me into playing on a league. Well once the league starts I realize that the only "real" player is someone ive known/gambled with for years. We have respect for one another and know pool etiquette. One night the 2 of us had to play and like I said we are fairly strong players. I dogged a runout and left him an eight straight in the side. I rake the balls in respect for his ability. My "captain" makes a scene about how he "could have miscued" lalalala. It was all I could do to not cause a COMPLETE scene dues to my work ties.
Alot of people talk about gamblers having no respect/sportsmanship but since playing on that league I have never met ANY group of pool players with less respect/sportsmanship. League players do more sharking than Ronnie Allen ever thought of...lol. At least gamblers dont say "well i guess this on is over" when you are down on the 8 ball.
Ian
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I have always perfered gambling over tourn or leagues. A few years ago a co worker "tricked" me into playing on a league. Well once the league starts I realize that the only "real" player is someone ive known/gambled with for years. We have respect for one another and know pool etiquette. One night the 2 of us had to play and like I said we are fairly strong players. I dogged a runout and left him an eight straight in the side. I rake the balls in respect for his ability. My "captain" makes a scene about how he "could have miscued" lalalala. It was all I could do to not cause a COMPLETE scene dues to my work ties.
Alot of people talk about gamblers having no respect/sportsmanship but since playing on that league I have never met ANY group of pool players with less respect/sportsmanship. League players do more sharking than Ronnie Allen ever thought of...lol. At least gamblers dont say "well i guess this on is over" when you are down on the 8 ball.
Ian
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Am I on your team? Cause I know EVERYTHING about bar box 8-ball. HEHE J/K
I hate those guys too. But I bet if you took portions of their game along with your and you would jump your winning % up to 85+. Just let their barbs go, but still watch them play and think about what their thought process was. I would rather play a lock up soft safety than go for a long cut to go 3 rails for shape. JMO.
HEHE J/KI hate those guys too. But I bet if you took portions of their game along with your and you would jump your winning % up to 85+. Just let their barbs go, but still watch them play and think about what their thought process was. I would rather play a lock up soft safety than go for a long cut to go 3 rails for shape. JMO.
My bad
I thought it was an instructional thread
I thought it was an instructional thread