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Saturated Fats

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Nearing the end of a game with three players the following situation came up and we are wondering about your take on this.

Player 1 has completed holes 1 through 5 and his ball is sitting so close to hole 6 that we don’t think it can be knocked out of place. We think that Player 1’s ball will be pocketed if disturbed.

Player 2 is likewise finished with the first 5 holes and trying to score the 6th hole and win the game. Player 2 shoots his ball at hole number 6 and both player’s balls are pocketed.

Who is the winner and why?
 
Saturated Fats said:
Nearing the end of a game with three players the following situation came up and we are wondering about your take on this.

Player 1 has completed holes 1 through 5 and his ball is sitting so close to hole 6 that we don’t think it can be knocked out of place. We think that Player 1’s ball will be pocketed if disturbed.

Player 2 is likewise finished with the first 5 holes and trying to score the 6th hole and win the game. Player 2 shoots his ball at hole number 6 and both player’s balls are pocketed.

Who is the winner and why?
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in one pocket if you make your winning ball and your opponents on the same legal stroke (it can happen when there is certain spots)
the shooter wins
i have no clue the rule for golf
 
Interesting situation!

What the written rules say

The OnePocket.org “Golf (on a pool/snooker table)” rules define a hickey as the penalty for several fouls, including any time you pocket an opponent’s ball. In that document it states explicitly:

You are penalized a hickey “any time you pocket your opponent’s ball.”

If you pocket your own ball in your own pocket but, on the same stroke, also pocket an opponent’s ball, “the shooter’s pocket does not count, and they are penalized a scratch.”

So under that commonly referenced rule set, there is no exception that forgives the hickey when you also make your own ball in your hole; in fact, the penalty overrides your make.

Snooker‑golf/golf rules vary a lot by room, and many places treat “hickey” simply as any agreed foul with stakes attached. It’s entirely plausible for a house or league version to say:

Pocketing an opponent’s ball is a hickey unless you also legally score your own hole, in which case the opponent’s ball is spotted/credited and no hickey is charged.

But that forgiveness clause appears to be a local or house rule, not something backed by the better‑known written golf rules.
 
Golf rules vary GREATLY from place to place. In T-town if you knock in someone else's ball they get the hole and you get a hickey. I'm not sure how this deal where both balls go in and a scratch is ruled. I asked DuaneR. to chime in, he plays it all the time.
 
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Was just told that in the two balls and a scratch scenario the opponent wins. This is how they play in Tulsa, if you make someone else in the out hole they win regardless of what happens next. Again, golf rules vary a lot.
 
Sheldon said:
Interesting situation!

What the written rules say

The OnePocket.org “Golf (on a pool/snooker table)” rules define a hickey as the penalty for several fouls, including any time you pocket an opponent’s ball. In that document it states explicitly:

You are penalized a hickey “any time you pocket your opponent’s ball.”

If you pocket your own ball in your own pocket but, on the same stroke, also pocket an opponent’s ball, “the shooter’s pocket does not count, and they are penalized a scratch.”

So under that commonly referenced rule set, there is no exception that forgives the hickey when you also make your own ball in your hole; in fact, the penalty overrides your make.

Snooker‑golf/golf rules vary a lot by room, and many places treat “hickey” simply as any agreed foul with stakes attached. It’s entirely plausible for a house or league version to say:

Pocketing an opponent’s ball is a hickey unless you also legally score your own hole, in which case the opponent’s ball is spotted/credited and no hickey is charged.
the rules?
But that forgiveness clause appears to be a local or house rule, not something backed by the better‑known written golf rules.
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Can you please provide a link to the rules?
 
I'd go by the 1P dot org rules for unusual situations if you don't have a good set of local rules that cover them. Here is the PDF of those rules....

(You may want to modify/add to those rules. There are some I've never seen in play.)
 

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Was just told that in the two balls and a scratch scenario the opponent wins. This is how they play in Tulsa, if you make someone else in the out hole they win regardless of what happens next. Again, golf rules vary a lot.
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Sometimes people will play if you make the opponents ball, you pay double.
 
Jaden said:
Sometimes people will play if you make the opponents ball, you pay double.
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In Tulsa they sometimes play 'sell out' where you pay double if the person following you wins. Again, the rues of golf make biker-bar 8ball rules look normal. There's a basic rule set with variations in just about every place its played.
 
RULES???
As long as we are playing by the same rules and they don't change. My favorite discovery of local rules came playing at a work camp in Canada. The weekly tournament was free and first place got a t shirt. 🤷‍♂️ I shot a shot that made my ball in the side and pocketed my opponents blocker in the corner. A nice shot that cleared a pocket I needed and left shape on another ball. FOUL was called! Local rules said to pocket my opponents ball was a foul and loss of turn. Fortunately for me they didn't speak Ball in Hand. 😉 🤷‍♂️
Oh yeah I was on a oil Sands refinery job that lasted 6 weeks with lots of overtime, so after 3 weeks I was asked not to play so some one else could get a shirt. 🤷‍♂️ Heck I had given the last one to my work partner anyway.
And the good part was when I asked the tournament director for the source of such an unusual rule. "My Daddy taught me." Was his reply. 🤷‍♂️
 
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