Another Farorate thread

That's about how I recall your game from your last video. I know you don't get out much to establish a fargo but I play a lot of 600 players and you're closer to 650. And of course Woofy does have plenty of games in and is likely rated just about right.
Dude is 650 all day.
Really strong shooting. Cueball on a string.
 
Dude is 650 all day.
Really strong shooting. Cueball on a string.
I haven’t kept an accurate score but I think I’ve won 9 of the last 13 sets I’ve played against the 9 ball ghost which is just shy of 70%. I’ve usually don’t even keep up with it but I’ve been working on a couple things the last few months so I have been trying to just to see if I’ve made any improvements.
 
Boy don't know what he don't know.
Sounds like a great customer.
Man really trying hard to call me out to the SBE with some $$$.

I don’t argue about my rate anymore. Most games are 1 year+ ago. It dropped down to 462 for about 6mos towards end of last year when I didn’t play anything. And I’ve gone up 20 points over the past 4 months with about 50 new games in. So at this point I’ve been playing at least at a 500 rate to go up 20. Probably closer to a 550. I’ll actually tell you my rate for past 50 games. Easy calculation. Since it was only 50 games to go +20. Or 1/9 of my whole record they weigh double or something in the past year so to go up 20 would be.(guessing I’ve played only the 50 in past year) (X+X+462(7))/9=(2x+3234)/9=482

2x/9+3234/9=482
2x/9=482-359.33
2x=123.33(9)=1110
X=555

So I’ve been playing at an average Fargo rate of 555 the past four months. there you go. Maybe slightly lower as there might be some other games. But no chance it would be less than 530 even with an big adjustment. 6mos away with 4 mos back only leaves 2 months for other games and I maybe put in 1 or 2 tournaments max in those 2. Regardless what my Fargorate is listed at that’s the rate I’ve been playing at the past 4mos. So is listed fargorate accurate. Not always. In a whole yes. Over time yes. But right now Mine is listed 70 lower than what I’ve been playing at lately. 480 is not an accurate depiction of who you will be playing on a race to 5 if we played today.
 
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Man really trying hard to call me out to the SBE with some $$$.

I don’t argue about my rate anymore. Most games are 1 year+ ago. It dropped down to 462 for about 6mos towards end of last year when I didn’t play anything. And I’ve gone up 20 points over the past 4 months with about 50 new games in. So at this point I’ve been playing at least at a 500 rate to go up 20. Probably closer to a 550. I’ll actually tell you my rate for past 50 games. Easy calculation. Since it was only 50 games to go +20. Or 1/9 of my whole record they weigh double or something in the past year so to go up 20 would be.(guessing I’ve played only the 50 in past year) (X+X+462(7))/9=(2x+3234)/9=482

2x/9+3234/9=482
2x/9=482-359.33
2x=123.33(9)=1110
X=555

So I’ve been playing at an average Fargo rate of 555 the past four months. there you go. Maybe slightly lower as there might be some other games. But no chance it would be less than 530 even with an big adjustment. 6mos away with 4 mos back only leaves 2 months for other games and I maybe put in 1 or 2 tournaments max in those 2. Regardless what my Fargorate is listed at that’s the rate I’ve been playing at the past 4mos. So is listed fargorate accurate. Not always. In a whole yes. Over time yes. But right now Mine is listed 70 lower than what I’ve been playing at lately.
At the rate you are improving we are gonna have to play even in 19 days....
 
I only put in the calculation to show how flawed the fargorate system can be. I can play my next 375 games this year at a 550 fargorate level and that would only get me to a 530 fargorate. Assuming the rest were 1-2years ago

550+550+462=1562/3= 520 to be exact and it’ll be worse if the next 375 are around/at a 600 level. Let’s say 590 cause the first 50 are 550

So 590+590+460=1640/3=547. So if I was a 600 fargorate right now I can play the next 375 games at that level and still be off more than 50 points at the end of it. And in a handicapped tournament I’d be handicapped on avg over the course of it 75 points below my actual speed.

This is also the reason I was asking if you can get your Fargorate reset. Maybe it makes a little more sense now. But those past games from before can really bring down your rate at an alarming rate. And I just proved it with the calculations.
 
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What city and state are you in, Wolfy? If near me, I'm coming for you:):):)
Sorry. It’s hard to write short responses. I don’t know how some of you sum up your thoughts so well.

Southwest of Chicago-Illinois. Thinking back. You are in Pennsylvania or near it.😉. Trying to get to SBE, running out of funds, and at this point going to need a rental car to get there. Buying a used engine over this weekend, but not going to trust a used engine with only 500 miles since install going on a 12-14 hr roadtrip.

If I’m out your way I’ll hit you up for some games.
 
Sorry. It’s hard to write short responses. I don’t know how some of you sum up your thoughts so well.

Southwest of Chicago-Illinois. Thinking back. You are in Pennsylvania or near it.😉. Trying to get to SBE, running out of funds, and at this point going to need a rental car to get there. Buying a used engine over this weekend, but not going to trust a used engine with only 500 miles since install going on a 12-14 hr roadtrip.

If I’m out your way I’ll hit you up for some games.
I split my time mostly between Atlanta and Philadelphia. I'll be in Philly around the Expo time. If you make it, I'll meet you at a local hall from the Expo and we can hit sum.
 
I split my time mostly between Atlanta and Philadelphia. I'll be in Philly around the Expo time. If you make it, I'll meet you at a local hall from the Expo and we can hit sum.
I’m still entered in the pretournament tournament. The point of going was to see how I fared against some 700’s on the 9 footers. Might just eat the $70 now if I can’t come up with the pro entry. No biggie. The amateurs is cheaper at 120 but single elimination is rough.
 
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Sorry. It’s hard to write short responses. I don’t know how some of you sum up your thoughts so well.

Southwest of Chicago-Illinois. Thinking back. You are in Pennsylvania or near it.😉. Trying to get to SBE, running out of funds, and at this point going to need a rental car to get there. Buying a used engine over this weekend, but not going to trust a used engine with only 500 miles since install going on a 12-14 hr roadtrip.

If I’m out your way I’ll hit you up for some games.
If you end up not making to SBE, maybe you'll find time to post the video you keep promising
 
I have not read this thread but I have a fargorate question as I'm thinking it might could be used in a youth program.

Can you enter a game between you and a friend? or does it have to be from an event?
 
So I guess this thing is a bit complicated that no one can describe how it’s done.
If you don’t have a fargorate. You have to request a preliminary fargorate from fargorate. Then you need to get the Salotto app and register your name with Salotto. Based off your name you verify that it is you listed on fargorate.

You then can create a match through Salotto. In order to report to fargorate. You have to choose that option when setting the match up. And you will be charged $2.99 once the match starts. There are different charges based on match length. From I’m pretty sure $1.99 a match for a shorter one. Based off my games the other day a race to 10 is $2.99.

To start a match. Both players need to have their own device and both have yo be registered and signed onto the app to play. One player clicks “create match” put in where it will be played and the race and what game you are playing. The other player clicks “available matches” and chooses the match and then joins. Both players verify, you play, results go to fargorate. As you play the app will ask you. “Who won game 1, who won game 2, etc” until the match is decided. You can also give weight before the match begins. So you could race someone 6-4 if you want to.

It’s really easy to do. But if 1 of the players doesn’t have a fargorate you can’t report to fargorate. Each player needs at least a preliminary rating listed in the fargorate system.

If you don’t know how to get a preliminary rating. Email fargorate with player names and some type of estimate of skill. If you emailed you were running a youth program, maybe you could send all their names in together.
 
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...snip... But if 1 of the players doesn’t have a fargorate you can’t report to fargorate. Each player needs at least a preliminary rating listed in the fargorate system.

If you don’t know how to get a preliminary rating. Email fargorate with player names and some type of estimate of skill. If you emailed you were running a youth program, maybe you could send all their names in together.
This portion is not correct (the rest of your post looks good). My friend played me several Salato matches. He has no starter rating assigned. His Salato matches with me were his first ever entry into the fargo system.

A starter rating assigned by a human is not needed, and Mike has stated "most" players never get one.
 
I have not read this thread but I have a fargorate question as I'm thinking it might could be used in a youth program.

Can you enter a game between you and a friend? or does it have to be from an event?
Yes you can use the Salato app between you and a friend. As Woofy mentioned, all participants need a fargo account, and there is a cost of $1-$3 range for each set, depending on the length.

That said, if you are doing an organized program, it might be better becoming a tournament director, and using DigitalPool.com brackets to get the results submitted to Fargo. This is also free.

You could also consider using the League Management System (LMS).

I personally participate in all 3 types, but have only set up the Salato app. I don't know how to set up a digital pool bracket or the LMS.
 
Yes you can use the Salato app between you and a friend. As Woofy mentioned, all participants need a fargo account, and there is a cost of $1-$3 range for each set, depending on the length.

That said, if you are doing an organized program, it might be better becoming a tournament director, and using DigitalPool.com brackets to get the results submitted to Fargo. This is also free.

You could also consider using the League Management System (LMS).

I personally participate in all 3 types, but have only set up the Salato app. I don't know how to set up a digital pool bracket or the LMS.

My idea for a youth program was not to run it in a league system or have it depend on tournaments.

Kids would come into the room and play when they get discount time and we can use skill ladders and such things to keep them interested. One thing I thought that might interest some of them is to get them entering games into fargo. Prior to both of your replies I didn't know it could be done with out having to have a tournament, so I really appreciate both of your replies.

I didn't want to have to go to the trouble to have learn everything on my own to find out it wasn't even possible.

Sounds like it's not only possible but it's also being done. Both good things.

Thanks to both of you. I will keep this in mind.



If you don’t have a fargorate. You have to request a preliminary fargorate from fargorate. Then you need to get the Salotto app and register your name with Salotto. Based off your name you verify that it is you listed on fargorate.

You then can create a match through Salotto. In order to report to fargorate. You have to choose that option when setting the match up. And you will be charged $2.99 once the match starts. There are different charges based on match length. From I’m pretty sure $1.99 a match for a shorter one. Based off my games the other day a race to 10 is $2.99.

To start a match. Both players need to have their own device and both have yo be registered and signed onto the app to play. One player clicks “create match” put in where it will be played and the race and what game you are playing. The other player clicks “available matches” and chooses the match and then joins. Both players verify, you play, results go to fargorate. As you play the app will ask you. “Who won game 1, who won game 2, etc” until the match is decided. You can also give weight before the match begins. So you could race someone 6-4 if you want to.

It’s really easy to do. But if 1 of the players doesn’t have a fargorate you can’t report to fargorate. Each player needs at least a preliminary rating listed in the fargorate system.

If you don’t know how to get a preliminary rating. Email fargorate with player names and some type of estimate of skill. If you emailed you were running a youth program, maybe you could send all their names in together.
 
This portion is not correct (the rest of your post looks good). My friend played me several Salato matches. He has no starter rating assigned. His Salato matches with me were his first ever entry into the fargo system.

A starter rating assigned by a human is not needed, and Mike has stated "most" players never get one.
I didn’t realize that. After downloading Salotto I dont remember getting the option to report to fargorate. Then after playing a tournament and was assigned one, I linked it to Salotto and then had the option.

Except I am pretty sure it wouldn’t let kim(my wife) and I report to fargorate until she requested a fargorate. Then no problem. Guess I could be remembering all this incorrectly, but I’m sure I asked Kim to request one so we could play.
 
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