Ok always same situation... Hill hill, big match... etc... Your opponent misses and leaves you in a great situation like this... What would you play?
Another "How would you play this" .. :D
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Looks like a safe to me. Bank to the long rail and back out to the middle of the short rail.
Trying to bank it in the pocket is too risky, unless you know the rails bank wide.
Trying to bank it in the pocket is too risky, unless you know the rails bank wide.
Yeah I would try and bank it 2 rails behind the 9 for a safety. Banking the 8 cross side is too risky because the 8 is frozen and if you doulbe kiss it, you may scratch in the upper left corner. The 8 can be made in the lower left pocket, but shape on the 9 is way too tough. JMO.
Southpaw
Southpaw
Dream on - I'd bet you $100 a shot all night that you can't make that and hold the CB at that end of the table. I'd bet you $20 a shot for the first five shots that you can't make the bank.PoolSponge said:
pj
chgo
The cross corner bank is a good shot (almost dead, depending on the cloth), and shape on the 9 is a gimme, with a good possibility of a 2-way:Southpaw said:
pj
chgo
Unless you're on a table with really bad rolls, you can shoot this shot with plenty of speed to make the bank and the CB will stay well above the 9 - no bottom needed. You're hitting the 8 so full that the CB is only carried forward by its natural follow. Try it.Southpaw said:
pj
chgo
Southpaw said:
i'm pretty sure you'd have to hit the cueball too hard if you tried that bank on the 8. there's no way you'd float down by the 9 like it's diagramed. maybe 2 rails
Southpaw said:
i'm pretty sure you'd have to hit the cueball too hard if you tried that bank on the 8. there's no way you'd float down by the 9 like it's diagramed. maybe 2 rails
I'll Match it.
And I'd match it...
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The bank to cross corner looks like the best option to me. even if the cueball didn't get enough natural follow, and froze when it hit the 8... it's still a pretty easy leave on the 9.
I'm gonna go rent a 9footer and see if I know what I'm talking about.
Patrick Johnson said:
And I'd match it...
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The bank to cross corner looks like the best option to me. even if the cueball didn't get enough natural follow, and froze when it hit the 8... it's still a pretty easy leave on the 9.
I'm gonna go rent a 9footer and see if I know what I'm talking about.
Natural bank
The shot is a natural bank as stated by fellow azr's.You can even with practice hit the ball with inside and pot the ball and get better shape on the nine,with some inside the chance of hitting the long rail and then going to the foot rail for safe is a higher probability.This is a shot that you should practice with different types of english and hits cause the shot comes up rather often in pool.People think the ball doesn't go anywhere and leave this shot many of times.
Like the Beard say's " bank of brother"
The shot is a natural bank as stated by fellow azr's.You can even with practice hit the ball with inside and pot the ball and get better shape on the nine,with some inside the chance of hitting the long rail and then going to the foot rail for safe is a higher probability.This is a shot that you should practice with different types of english and hits cause the shot comes up rather often in pool.People think the ball doesn't go anywhere and leave this shot many of times.
Like the Beard say's " bank of brother"
A good safety here would be to thin the eight and stick the CB behind the 9
randyg <-- 9 ball situtation... sorry
Thanks for all the comments..
But in a hill hill situation in a match to win the tournament you would really go for the bank cross corner? what if you bank it short and leave this table to your opponent?
Match closed you lost.. or another situation like this where he can make another safe?
Thanks for all the comments..
But in a hill hill situation in a match to win the tournament you would really go for the bank cross corner? what if you bank it short and leave this table to your opponent?
Match closed you lost.. or another situation like this where he can make another safe?
the laws of physics....
I agree absolutely with PJ... there is no way you could hold the CB and make that cross-side-bank. Additionally, although I haven't set it up and taken a look, the cross-side-bank looks almost impossible... I'd be thrilled if my opponent went for that shot.
I think that you play the cross-bank to the bottom left pocket... with the right speed so that "if you're short" you reach at least the middle of the foot rail. You may leaving your opponent a long bank, or be "hooked" by your opponent after this shot, but you're already on the defensive and in trouble.
Another possibility may be to "thin" the left side of the 8 with the right speed to move the CB 3 rails back to the head rail. The 8 ball will be somewhere near the middle of the table and if the CB is left close to the head rail the shot is not a "gimme". (I wish I knew how to use the WEI table?)
Patrick Johnson said:
I agree absolutely with PJ... there is no way you could hold the CB and make that cross-side-bank. Additionally, although I haven't set it up and taken a look, the cross-side-bank looks almost impossible... I'd be thrilled if my opponent went for that shot.
I think that you play the cross-bank to the bottom left pocket... with the right speed so that "if you're short" you reach at least the middle of the foot rail. You may leaving your opponent a long bank, or be "hooked" by your opponent after this shot, but you're already on the defensive and in trouble.
Another possibility may be to "thin" the left side of the 8 with the right speed to move the CB 3 rails back to the head rail. The 8 ball will be somewhere near the middle of the table and if the CB is left close to the head rail the shot is not a "gimme". (I wish I knew how to use the WEI table?)
RunoutalloverU said:
That would be more than "a good safety".... I'd like to see it done...
Obvious answer
The obvious answer is to back off ten yards and punt! Oops, too much college football today.
The cross side bank isn't that hard of a shot and is a favorite of mine. I'd play to make the eight cross side and kick two rails into the nine as otherwise I agree either the cue ball is going to do a lot of traveling or have a lot of green between it and the nine ball.
With the nine ball where it is at and a lot of green between it and the cue ball the odds aren't real good of making it although only a scratch or a corner hook really puts you out of business as there has to be at least a bank with it that far off the rail. If I kick fairly full into it I almost certainly get a shot and if I thin it I move it to a more makeable position. Even if I miss it completely it is far enough off the rail that I have to have a shot even if just a bank. First thing is to pocket the eight because I don't like the odds of getting a safety.
Hu
The obvious answer is to back off ten yards and punt! Oops, too much college football today.
The cross side bank isn't that hard of a shot and is a favorite of mine. I'd play to make the eight cross side and kick two rails into the nine as otherwise I agree either the cue ball is going to do a lot of traveling or have a lot of green between it and the nine ball.
With the nine ball where it is at and a lot of green between it and the cue ball the odds aren't real good of making it although only a scratch or a corner hook really puts you out of business as there has to be at least a bank with it that far off the rail. If I kick fairly full into it I almost certainly get a shot and if I thin it I move it to a more makeable position. Even if I miss it completely it is far enough off the rail that I have to have a shot even if just a bank. First thing is to pocket the eight because I don't like the odds of getting a safety.
Hu
You might be able to roll the CB softly into the 8 and hide the CB behind the point of the side pocket, as shown below: