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desi2960

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i was contacted by goh zhihui about one of my wood pin cues, i sent photos and after half dozen emails he ask if i would ship to singapore for $10 extra and he would use paypal. i told him no paypal out of the usa, he then suggested wire transfer, all he needed was my bank name, bank address, bank phone number, account number ,etc,etc. these guys will never stop trying, if they used the energy they use trying to steal, and put it into work they would be rich. chuck starkey
 
which part of it was a scam? :confused: sounds like he's trying to pay u via bank wire transfer..
 
weeseng said:
which part of it was a scam? :confused: sounds like he's trying to pay u via bank wire transfer..

Maybe.:rolleyes:

It's really never a good idea to give all that personal and bank information to anyone, especially someone that you don't know.

Desi, I would have done the same....and just let this one go.:D

Jim
 
Exactly

jimmyg said:
Maybe.:rolleyes:

It's really never a good idea to give all that personal and bank information to anyone, especially someone that you don't know.

Desi, I would have done the same....and just let this one go.:D

Jim

I get emails all the time, personal and business, wanting to do business with me. Name, address, phone number's and shipping info. Then asking for credit or bank account info for payment, either from me, or to pay me.
Think a wire transfer is safe? I don't know for sure. But nobody gets any of my personal and bank account info, especially if I don't know them.
Let em' send a cashiers check and pay in full before shipping. Better safe than sorry.
 
satman said:
I get emails all the time, personal and business, wanting to do business with me. Name, address, phone number's and shipping info. Then asking for credit or bank account info for payment, either from me, or to pay me.
Think a wire transfer is safe? I don't know for sure. But nobody gets any of my personal and bank account info, especially if I don't know them.
Let em' send a cashiers check and pay in full before shipping. Better safe than sorry.

again

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I'll say I've received many, many wire transfers over the years. Never been scammed once
 
satman said:
I get emails all the time, personal and business, wanting to do business with me. Name, address, phone number's and shipping info. Then asking for credit or bank account info for payment, either from me, or to pay me.
Think a wire transfer is safe? I don't know for sure. But nobody gets any of my personal and bank account info, especially if I don't know them.
Let em' send a cashiers check and pay in full before shipping. Better safe than sorry.

i agree. if you're unsure then get him to pay you through western union or money order.. for all you know, he might be a potential customer..
 
satman said:
I get emails all the time, personal and business, wanting to do business with me. Name, address, phone number's and shipping info. Then asking for credit or bank account info for payment, either from me, or to pay me.
Think a wire transfer is safe? I don't know for sure. But nobody gets any of my personal and bank account info, especially if I don't know them.
Let em' send a cashiers check and pay in full before shipping. Better safe than sorry.

I agree.

Name, mailing and business address, telephone number is all a customer requires. Since THEY are the ones making payment, you are the one that may request THEIR account, or credit card numbers, not the other way around. There is a way that THEY can authorize you to make a withdrawal from THEIR account, but I am not sure of the exact process. Your bank can help you with that.

I don't even like giving banks, investment companies, or attorneys that I do business with any extra information, and these are licensed, regulated and established entities, never individuals, especially ones that I do not know.

Jim
 
There is no way for someone to magically remove funds from your bank account by wire transfer. International transfers are handled through the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), which is probably more secure than using your credit card on the internet. The only downside to international wire transfers is that it can take a while, especially if your wire has to go through mutliple banks or if you're changing currencies.
 
XxMerlinxX said:
There is no way for someone to magically remove funds from your bank account by wire transfer. International transfers are handled through the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), which is probably more secure than using your credit card on the internet. The only downside to international wire transfers is that it can take a while, especially if your wire has to go through mutliple banks or if you're changing currencies.

Half of the Nigerian GDP is based on identity theft leading to the theft of funds from all types of financial accounts throughtout the world. It's not magic, it's fraud and theft.

Why take the chance?

Jim
 
I said from wire transfer. I'm aware of the different kinds of financial fraud, but it's not possible for someone else to take money out of your account by knowing the information needed for a wire transfer.
 
This thread is laughable! The sound of a strange name and a strange country sends some people running a mile. There is no basis for accusing the guy of being a bumming thief based on just the info you had.

The info the buyer wanted is just what is needed for a bank wire transfer. If you are uncomfortable with that, use western union and you will just need to provide your name and possibly your address - or is the info also too sensitive for you to give? You can then make sure that the cash is in your pocket before sending anything out.:rolleyes:

desi2960 said:
i was contacted by goh zhihui about one of my wood pin cues, i sent photos and after half dozen emails he ask if i would ship to singapore for $10 extra and he would use paypal. i told him no paypal out of the usa, he then suggested wire transfer, all he needed was my bank name, bank address, bank phone number, account number ,etc,etc. these guys will never stop trying, if they used the energy they use trying to steal, and put it into work they would be rich. chuck starkey
 
I wasn't accusing anyone

Stan9 said:
This thread is laughable! The sound of a strange name and a strange country sends some people running a mile. There is no basis for accusing the guy of being a bumming thief based on just the info you had.

The info the buyer wanted is just what is needed for a bank wire transfer. If you are uncomfortable with that, use western union and you will just need to provide your name and possibly your address - or is the info also too sensitive for you to give? You can then make sure that the cash is in your pocket before sending anything out.:rolleyes:

I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt. But when it comes to certain things, Id rather be a bit skeptical, than a bit burned. I know absolutely nothing about wire tranfers. Especially international ones.
 
satman said:
I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt. But when it comes to certain things, Id rather be a bit skeptical, than a bit burned. I know absolutely nothing about wire tranfers. Especially international ones.

Nothing wrong with that, but shouldn't he suggest another method of payment if he's uncomfortable giving his banking details, instead of jumping straight to the conclusion that zhihui is a scammer? I don't think that's fair to zhihui.
 
desi2960 said:
i was contacted by goh zhihui about one of my wood pin cues, i sent photos and after half dozen emails he ask if i would ship to singapore for $10 extra and he would use paypal. i told him no paypal out of the usa, he then suggested wire transfer, all he needed was my bank name, bank address, bank phone number, account number ,etc,etc. these guys will never stop trying, if they used the energy they use trying to steal, and put it into work they would be rich. chuck starkey

Western Union money transfer to the location nearest you. It's fast, easy and very safe and you don't have to give up any personal info. Just pick up your cash and then ship your cue, been using it for a couple of years... no problems!
 
other payment methods

i still think its a scam, i offered to accept , money order, cashiers check or personal check. he wanted to do the deal real fast, and wanted much more information than needed in a wire transfer. after i refused him this information he sends me an email telling me that he bought one of my cues on ebay today. problem is there are none of my cues on ebay for sale in that time frame. things just don't add up. chuck starkey
 
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