Anti-elbow drop machine

iusedtoberich said:
Every pro alive drops their elbow a mile. Not dropping it is the worst pool advice.
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I noticed this too.

Josh Filler (best player in the world) has noticeable elbow drop. And this isn't one of those "good in spite of" things like Keith McCready's sidearm delivery, it's super common among today's best players in the world.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Just thinking out loud...

The pro women today seem to play much better as a whole than the pro women of the 90's. When you watch those old matches, a lot of those women tried to have perfect pinned elbow pendulum strokes. I think its because the women at that time had coaches preaching the pendulum stroke, whereas most of the men were too proud, and developed naturally.

The women of today have much more piston strokes, like the men do.

Maybe that is one contributing factor to their improved play.

I remember watching Pam Treadway come up in the late 90's/early 2000's in the Philly area. Her stroke was "like a man's" and she dominated for about 10 years every regional event she entered. The other women had a dink stroke with a locked elbow.
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Jasmin Ouschan is one of the strongest woman's players of today and she has significant elbow drop.

I honestly think it's hard to even get a proper, consistent follow through with a pure pendulum stroke unless you're tall.
 
straightline said:
The Gorstian follow through is the best way to maximize stroke length. The farther away you can place point Z the more stability you have in the critical cue ball strike zone and to a significant degree in the stick foul zones.

Contemplate this clip for a second and do what you like.

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seems like all of the divers had a fixed elbow on entry...no elbow drop
;) 😂😂
 
GoldCrown said:
The only parallel I see is I play in a Dive sometimes. I get the message.
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No message except elbow drop or not compared to any one of those dives. Learn a good method and stick to it. It shouldn't ever be a struggle.

Incidentally dive bars are the only places with tables here. The last place with 9 footers closed 4, 5 years ago. I'm probably better off than spending all my free time at pool. :ROFLMAO:
 
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SSDiver2112 said:
It's not if you drop it, it's when. After contacting the ball it doesn't matter.
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That's what some seem to ignore. For soft shots, up to three table length speed or so, many top players don’t drop the elbow significantly, even after contact.

For fast shots, all top pros drop the elbow some, after contact. Often that is five inches or so. That's necessary to keep the arm from hurting as it closes. Some pros come down a lot more, but I don't think it's that common.

I think I've only seen one pro who had zero elbow drop on fast shots and that was Tony Robles some time ago. It looked jerky and painful. I don't think he does that anymore.

For fast shots, most players use what I call a J stroke. It's a pendulum until the tip hits the ball and then it transitions to a piston stroke. The grip hand follows a path like a J starting with the curved part.
 
This topic - elbow drop - and CB or OB last have always been just about the two big issues in the game of pool with regards to instruction and execution. Surprised nobody has brought up the CB/OB last issue in this thread.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
This topic - elbow drop - and CB or OB last have always been just about the two big issues in the game of pool with regards to instruction and execution. Surprised nobody has brought up the CB/OB last issue in this thread.
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Maybe because it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed
Just sayin
 
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