glad to see 95% of the reponses, hated predator as well. thank you! i guess what i'm saying is this--- RIPP OFF!!! why charge so much freakin money for a shaft, that sucks? you know why? because they spent tons of money in advertising, and need to make the money back, so they double up the cost of those rotton predator shafts! that's why i LOVE Mali cues, inexpensive, great hit and balance, they look great ,it's a a win-win situation. and lastly, for those who say you have to get used to a shaft, i totally, totally disagree!!!!!!! i feel with a cue, tip or shaft, if you don't love it from the first hit, MOVE ON!