Any interest in a TAR 28 replay?

[JCIN]

OK...its all set. First replay starts in 10 minutes. Here is the schedule for the loop:


Approximate start times for each loop: All times Eastern

Tuesday: 11am, 3pm, 7pm, 11pm

Wednesday: 2am, 6am, 10am, 2pm, 6pm, 10pm

Thursday: 2am, 6am (Final loop ends at 10AM)

The match is 3 hours and 47 minutes long. As stated above all times are approximate.

One thing that will be different on this is that I will be in and out of the studio while its running and will not be monitoring the stream every minute. Tomorrow I will be out for most of the day on a side job. If something goes wrong or you have problems email me at the address on the TAR home page and I'll do my best to get things straightened out.

Link to purchase is at www.theactionreport.com and the price is $10 for 48 hours of looping 8 Ball. Celtic will be proud.

 

[Pre-Flag Master]

Can you watch the match as many times as you want during the 48 hrs?

 

[Pre-Flag Master]

Oh, and thank you very much, Justin
:thumbup:

 

[Pre-Flag Master]

Tuesday night you jump from a 4 hour interval to a 3 hour interval from 7pm to 10pm. I sincerely hope I have helped you discover a turd before it starts to stink.

Fatz

 

[JCIN]

Can you watch the match as many times as you want during the 48 hrs?

Yes.

The match is 3 hours and 47 minutes long. I fixed the 10 to 11 and you notice 11 to 2 is three hours because we lose 13 minutes out the four hour window on every cycle. If its imperative to someone to catch the exact beginning....do the math. LOL

 

[elvicash]

Thank you! I started another thread to ask this question and got a bunch of noise about making Ustream work. Nobody answered the first question in the post which was "how does Ustream fit into the TAR thing..."

so again, thank you.

Fatz

I am not part of tar so this could be wrong but here goes. Tar is a producer video usually streamed live they have two models. Free and pay per view ppv to distribute the free stream they use you Ustream a system which subsidizes its distribution with embedded advertising the ppv streams are distributed via a different streaming company which offers the framework to allow tight user control via purchased links single use of an account at a time etc. The cost of distrivuting via the ppv channel is an expense to tar. If they sell enough views to surpass the distribution cost then the difference is potential profit. I am sure they have other expenses as well

As to what you need. Fast internet down one meg or more for either. You also need the flash player codecs as they compress and distribute cia the adobe flash mechanism

They have a very solid easy to use system so you ought to be able to easily get it going

Sorry for typos this from cell phone

 

[Pre-Flag Master]

The match is 3 hours and 47 minutes long. I fixed the 10 to 11 and you notice 11 to 2 is three hours because we lose 13 minutes out the four hour window on every cycle. If its imperative to someone to catch the exact beginning....do the math. LOL

OK, I thought there was a pause until the subsequent start time. Apparently the stream loops continuously literally, without pause. Got it.

And thanks again.

Fatz

 

[spliced]

I will be buying thanks Justin!

 

[bflgvs]

Sure would like to view the replays but due to download constraints set in place by Hughes Net (satellite internet) I won't be able to. Great gesture though, and thanks.

Gerry S

 

[shinobi]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again...

I would prefer to pay $X and simply download the video of the stream and watch it at my convenience, pausing when I want to, etc.

 

[Celtic]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again...

I would prefer to pay $X and simply download the video of the stream and watch it at my convenience, pausing when I want to, etc.

I imagine it is not that hard to find a program that will record the stream. You could set it recording at the start of the stream, go do whatever for about 4 hours, and then stop the recording and you would have the whole match saved as an avi or MPEG4.

I do think though that having a membership for TAR that costs about $30 a month and gets you each PPV AND video on demand streaming that you can pause, fast forward, ect... is the way of the future. It has to be doable without a huge amount of cost, Youtube is all video on demand, porn, vimeo, ect...

You get even just 200 people paying the $30 a month ($360 a year) to have access to the TAR library and each PPV and that is $72,000 a year right there, it it grows to 1000 people, 2000 people it really starts adding up and even in pool these numbers don't sound too unrealistic, we have at least "some" fans that like to watch pool.

Once you have something like that it does not matter if someone is out of town or has a dinner when a PPV is on, as long as they are a member they can watch the video on demand at any time after it is added to the library.

 

[Pre-Flag Master]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again...

I would prefer to pay $X and simply download the video of the stream and watch it at my convenience, pausing when I want to, etc.

It is a "product". Maybe there would be issues with TAR losing control of their material?

The internet has spawned various ancillary services such as Paypal, data storage, etc. You know what we need? Some kind of third party solution for selling video - sort of a cross between You Tube and eBay.

It would provide the storage space for the video and the logistics for the buyer/seller transaction and the tracking of which accounts paid for what, authorizing the viewing of a particular video.

All the seller would have to do is open an account, upload the videos and pay the fees on a percentage basis. The buyer would have to open an account, pay the price, and start watching.

Basically it would be like eBay, but the product sold would just be video and the price would be fixed rather than auction. The viewing experience would be more like You Tube. You watch when you want, pause, fast forward, go back, etc.

Again, I don't know if there would be issues with losing control of the product.

edit: with all that said, the current way is still better than TV. At least you have many, many "time slots" to choose from.

Fatz

 

[shinobi]

It is a "product". Maybe there would be issues with TAR losing control of their material?

Again, I don't know if there would be issues with losing control of the product.

Fatz

Fatz,

Losing control how? As Celtic mentioned above, it is trivial to record an Internet stream. If you can play it, you can record it. And I do it sometimes myself -- I know how to do it.

Plenty of people already record the TAR streams.

In other words, don't kid yourself. There is no control. But I'm offering them my money if they make it convenient for me to buy their product in a way that suits me.

 

[Soulweb]

I bought the 8 Ball and the 10 Pocket live...was busy Saturday. I'll happily email you my comments regarding this PPV weekend...which in my simple opinion was fantastic. If the billiards community can't see their heroes on ESPN on cable, then this PPV feed proves to be more than ample. In fact I was on the fence about spending 15 bucks on Friday night...but I had so much fun that I did it for Sunday night too.

My only wish is that these were made available for purchase on DVD. If you don't want to be bothered with it, please find a third party that would handle it. The 8-Ball match was fantastic, entertaining, and instructional. A lot of strategy in some games...especially one in particular (I think it might have been the 19th game or something). Break and run is a blast when you can do it, but as a spectator I find it a bit boring. This was an 8 ball match against two virtually equal opponents that had every aspect of pool. Plenty of break and runs, but plenty of strategy and safety as well. The small pockets made the traditional (a.k.a. boring...to me) break and run 8 ball look more like the sort of 8 ball you might see at a nice pool room (with the bigger pockets obviously).

10 ball was great, but poor Corey just looked a bit out of form. And all the luck...ALL of it, went to John, and all the bad rolls went to Corey. The score was in no way indicative of the quality of play between both of these opponents. The better player won...that's how it works. But the score does reflect a number of lucky and unlucky rolls too.

And please, let me at least buy the 8 ball match on DVD.

 

[localguy]

+1. I'd be interested in purchasing a copy as well.

 

[Pre-Flag Master]

Fatz,

Losing control how? As Celtic mentioned above, it is trivial to record an Internet stream. If you can play it, you can record it. And I do it sometimes myself -- I know how to do it.

Plenty of people already record the TAR streams.

In other words, don't kid yourself. There is no control. But I'm offering them my money if they make it convenient for me to buy their product in a way that suits me.

Well I'm not a technical guru, but I did suspect that selling a video WOULD be feasible. So that begs the question, why sell only streams? I was just grasping at an explanation. Celtic posted as I was writing my post, so I didn't see his post yet. So this gives plausibility to my idea for a third party video sales site. Surprised no one has attempted such an enterprise then.

Fatz

 

[Pre-Flag Master]

First time TAR experience

Based on the responses here I'll set this up and give it a shot. Honestly I dont know if it makes financial sense based on bandwidth costs but what the hell.

Justin, thanks again. I like 8-ball. Corey likes 8-ball too. I like Corey.

Video quality is excellent. Even the whole screen view is quite good. Setting up an account, paying, and viewing all smooth. No technical issues whatsoever.

Sound could be a bit louder (I did crank it up). Commentary by Ken S. is very good. And I love having the players miked.

Being long matches, I would rather have video than streaming. Multiple repeating streams is better than TV but, with the length of these matches, I would like to have the ability to pause or restart at will. I also like to replay great shots from which I might learn something.

I'm sure you've heard this all before, and I don't know how it affects the business end of things, but I'd like to add a vote for selling video along with streams. Maybe streams have more value as a live event, so you could sell both, each at different prices. DVD's or downloads, either way is fine with me, but I vote for video. edit: actually, downloads would be cheaper and more convenient.

thanks
Fatz

 

[Soulweb]

That's a fantastic idea Pre-Flag, a download of the match would be a wonderful compromise. Then you're not trying to sell out a specific amount of inventory. As long as the video quality is as good as the stream I'm totally satisfied. I streamed it through my laptop onto my 40" TV and the video quality was superb. it's not HD, but it was far and away better than I expected.

 

[Pre-Flag Master]

That's a fantastic idea Pre-Flag, a download of the match would be a wonderful compromise. Then you're not trying to sell out a specific amount of inventory. As long as the video quality is as good as the stream I'm totally satisfied. I streamed it through my laptop onto my 40" TV and the video quality was superb. it's not HD, but it was far and away better than I expected.

Well, it wasn't my idea, but I'll agree that it seems like a fantastic one. I don't know the business considerations though. But as you say, not having to produce a physical product and be limited to selling that number of units seems better.

 

[elvicash]

The content is TAR's so I do not think they would appreciate people selling copies of the stream. Maybe I am missing something here but there business is tuff enough enough without you throwing a curveball at it.