Any Mottey Collectors out there?

[BigAppleSkinny]

I am looking to sell my 12 point Mottey. It is signed Paul F Mottey 4 98. What makes this cue very rare is the wooden joint pin. The forearm comes through the solid ivory joint and is turned into a coarse thread that goes into the shafts for a straight wood to wood joint. When i talked to Paul about ten years ago, when i bought the cue from the original owner, he said he had only made one of this style jointed cue this fancy. He had made a few sneaky petes as well.

The cue is all original and has never been refinished. It has been used and enjoyed, but not mistreated or neglected. It has two shafts with ivory ferrules. Both are right around 13mm. The points have a holly veneer, but everything else that is white is ivory. The cue is Ebony and Burl with a lizard skin wrap. It is rather light, less than 19oz.

For more specs and to make an offer, please feel free to PM me and i will be glad to talk to you at length about the cue. I hope i can find a serious collector who is willing to make a reasonable offer on a very rare and very unique cue.

Thanks for looking.

 

[VonRhett]

Beautiful cue.

But for the joint pin to be an actual extension of the forearm would represent a construction method that I've never heard of Paul using. Very different indeed.

And the recessed threads on the shafts are also very unique.

As a fellow Collector, asking for offers probably won't work - especially since you're new here. Better off just listing your price and see what happens.

Might I suggest that you offer some form of Escrow Service??

-von

 

[Quesports]

If I understand the seller correctly the joint pin is wood. Is it an ebony pin? This is the only Mottey I've ever seen or heard of made this way. Really unique cue for sure! Good Luck and welcome to AZ..

 

[sharpq]

I didn't see where it was signed "Mottey". You might want to show that in pics.

 

[ibuycues]

Years ago, I was in Chicago on business, and met John Wright for dinner one night. Afterwards, we went to a local pool room where he brought a case of 10-12 cues for sale, to show the patrons. He had his signature "trial" shafts, and I hit balls with this unique Mottey with the ebony pin.

I will check, I likely have a picture of this cue in one of John's famous photo mailings. I have all of them.

Nice cue.

Will Prout

 

[BigAppleSkinny]

I have added a picture of the signature. I paid $4500 for the cue back in the day. I realize the market has taken a different direction since then, but this cue really is a top quality investment.

Rare doesn't always mean desirable, but i truly feel this cue is both.

Thanks for the replies, and the PM's. I have actually been on AZB since 2007 when i sold the majority of my collection, but i haven't been active in a few years.

Keep the comments coming, it's great to hear from everyone.

To answer the pin question, YES!! The pin is actually turned into the forearm of the cue. It is all one piece. The ebony pin is actually the forearm coming through the ivory joint. Talk about a wood to wood feel. And it plays great.

 

[BigAppleSkinny]

Back to the top!

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

That is just plain wild.

I like different and what you have here seems to qualify. :wink:

I know it's a subjective matter but can you pls elaborate some on the hit/feel of this cue as compared with other Motteys (or any other top makers we'd be familiar with) you have played, assuming you have?

Oh, and do you know what that pin thread size is?

Thx and GLWYS.

best,
brian kc

 

[deanoc]

Paul made several cues for me including at least 1 with the wood pin
as best as I can remember,mine features maple pins about this size

I was thinking of another one and Paul wanted to use straight grain maple for the forearm

I would be surprised if the pin is not a piece of ebony separate from the ebony,as all of the other ones are

The pin was what we used with the deano cues,and was commonto most older billiard cues

I have found the pin to be by far my favorite

Dean

 

[BigAppleSkinny]

I would describe the hit as Solid. I was using Mariposa cues for a while for the wooden pins and liked the hit and feel, but gave them up for an ebony nose Southwest. When i hit balls with the Mottey, i had the best of both worlds and done with top notch quality and woods.

I used the Mottey mainly for One Pocket and Straight pool. I could control english easier with it than my other cues. And when needed i could get more on the cue ball. As far as the feel in my hands, it is Solid. Not springy or whippy, not stiff or uncomfortable. Just solid.

Thanks Dean for the comments. I do prefer these pins as well. It makes a difference in the whole feel not to have a piece of steel in the middle of the cue.

Thanks for looking and leaving feedback. I do hope someone else gets to enjoy this cue soon.