We have all seen the commercials... but has anyone actually made the purchase? If you have... I would like to hear how you liked it.
thanks,
-Back2good1
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-Back2good1
Anyone buy the Spider Laser Training aid?
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anybody have feedback on this?
Wow
It and my Travis Trotter cue have elevated my game to a whole new level!:wink:
(But I still need the avacado)
It and my Travis Trotter cue have elevated my game to a whole new level!:wink:
(But I still need the avacado)
It seems a little expensive for my taste... but if he gives me the edge on the rooster, it might be worth it!
My guess is, if this thing was priced at something like $19.95... they would have sold a few more.
My guess is, if this thing was priced at something like $19.95... they would have sold a few more.
What is the going price for the Spider?
I think it was 3 easy payments of $59.95 plus S & H.
Way over priced.
Buy 2 lasers from a home improvement store for 10 to 15 each and you can do the same thing plus use them around the house for honey do's.
Cool, what about a true blooded AZ product review?
Take a piece of clear thin plastic, such as a sheet cover. Draw a straight line on it and then another line that is perpendicular (90 degrees) to it. From the intersection of this point put a paper hole reinforcement 1 1/8" away on the one of the lines. Then on the same line put another 2 1/4" away ( the diameter of a ball). The perpendicular line should now be in the middle of these 2 lines. Put this on the table with the line pointing to a pocket. Put a ball in the hole closest to the pocket. Aim the center of the CB at the other reinforcement which represents the CL of the ghost ball. The perpendicular line shows the tangent line that the CB will follow on a stun shot. If you want to get fancy you can make also draw a circle to represent the ghost ball.
This does the same thing and is a lot cheaper.
This does the same thing and is a lot cheaper.
I thought for sure there would have been at least 1 AZer that bought this...
I wonder how many they sold....?
-Back2good1
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Or look at my trainer and video pretty much what he is discribing
But includes the DVD on stroke and stance.
Mark
another view from a AZ freindly vendor
Here is a listing from AAA Nielsen's with more images and info -
http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Spider-Bill...ash=item3354436bb9&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
Here is a listing from AAA Nielsen's with more images and info -
http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Spider-Bill...ash=item3354436bb9&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
I was given one as a gift, and have no idea of the price.
It is a tremendous tool for teaching beginning and intermediate players. Even fairly skilled amateur players can find some value in it; but beginners will really benefit. It visually presents a great picture of contact point, path of the object ball, and tangent line. A beginner will find it much easier to understand than an hour of verbiage from the usual poolhall "experts".
If you will test intermediate players, you will find that their idea of the paths and contact point and ball overlap is fairly general - the Spider provides a much more exact picture for them, and they usually benefit significantly (but are embarrassed by the exposure of their limitations).
It is quite easy to use, and any beginner should strongly consider it - most intermediate players would benefit, but will be too proud to do so. I find it quite hard to believe that any homemade device will have anywhere near the ease of use of this product.
Having said all of that; the knowledge gained from using this device is only mildly helpful until the student develops a perfectly straight, very precise, and very repeatable stroke (and you can't buy that). JMO.
It is a tremendous tool for teaching beginning and intermediate players. Even fairly skilled amateur players can find some value in it; but beginners will really benefit. It visually presents a great picture of contact point, path of the object ball, and tangent line. A beginner will find it much easier to understand than an hour of verbiage from the usual poolhall "experts".
If you will test intermediate players, you will find that their idea of the paths and contact point and ball overlap is fairly general - the Spider provides a much more exact picture for them, and they usually benefit significantly (but are embarrassed by the exposure of their limitations).
It is quite easy to use, and any beginner should strongly consider it - most intermediate players would benefit, but will be too proud to do so. I find it quite hard to believe that any homemade device will have anywhere near the ease of use of this product.
Having said all of that; the knowledge gained from using this device is only mildly helpful until the student develops a perfectly straight, very precise, and very repeatable stroke (and you can't buy that). JMO.
A guy at the pool hall bought one way back
I tried it out, It seemed a bit cumbersome to set up. I think it helps equivalent to using an actual ball as a "ghost ball" behind your object ball when working on a difficult shot, so I can see the value in it for a player who is starting out, and I think it would help start learning to visualize shots. Probably would work good for cut shots that are hard to visualize. But it is expensive for what it does and would be of limited value for a more experienced player.
I tried it out, It seemed a bit cumbersome to set up. I think it helps equivalent to using an actual ball as a "ghost ball" behind your object ball when working on a difficult shot, so I can see the value in it for a player who is starting out, and I think it would help start learning to visualize shots. Probably would work good for cut shots that are hard to visualize. But it is expensive for what it does and would be of limited value for a more experienced player.
Personally Joe tickers laser trainer is way better
I bought a case of them when they were first released. I found their performance to be so poor that I sent them back. The laser lines were not visible under my table light or normal room light. It had to be almost dark. The alignment and focus of the laser was inconsistent. Overall the build quality just was not there.
My money was refunded with no problem.
Here is a link to a series of pictures I sent to the manufacturer.
http://jenady.smugmug.com/Business/Spider-Light-Tests/320116_2LxKp#12728345_Mw5qF
My money was refunded with no problem.
Here is a link to a series of pictures I sent to the manufacturer.
http://jenady.smugmug.com/Business/Spider-Light-Tests/320116_2LxKp#12728345_Mw5qF
This is just funny:
It looks like a bunch of little pool robots on the march.
Can't you techies figure out if all these aiming systems work or not using a bunch of these things.
FWIW - I have tried it. As a device to show someone where to hit the ball it works. I feel as though it would be a good device in a training situation. Probably a cool gadget for an instructor to impress beginning and intermediate players.
At one point in my life I acquired a Dennis Taylor aim trainer. Betcha haven't heard of those?
This was a device that you could set up pointing at a pocket and the ball rested against a retainer. When you shot the ball it would beep if you hit on the exact line that you aimed the device on. There was a little button and if the object ball hit it then you would have made the shot. If not then you missed. The object ball would then roll back into place. I must have put in about 3-4 hours with this device and it did help me some but really it was frustrating trying to get that beep.
When Efren Reyes plays his object ball is all over the place, sometimes he hits center pocket, sometimes he hits the rail a diamond up table, sometimes he hits the far side of the pocket. He really uses the whole table.
I suppose that all of these devices are helpful to get a player to the ideal spot to pocket a ball in the center of the pocket. And I suppose that once a player develops the feel for where that is then they can make adjustments when they need to be somewhere other than center pocket.
I personally wouldn't buy one but I'd probably rent it or use it if there were one at the pool room that anyone could use.
I have always thought that a really good pool room should have a training table setup which makes use of all the devices, books, dvds and so on that are out there. What better way to retain customers than to instill a deep desire to get better?
It looks like a bunch of little pool robots on the march.
Can't you techies figure out if all these aiming systems work or not using a bunch of these things.
FWIW - I have tried it. As a device to show someone where to hit the ball it works. I feel as though it would be a good device in a training situation. Probably a cool gadget for an instructor to impress beginning and intermediate players.
At one point in my life I acquired a Dennis Taylor aim trainer. Betcha haven't heard of those?
This was a device that you could set up pointing at a pocket and the ball rested against a retainer. When you shot the ball it would beep if you hit on the exact line that you aimed the device on. There was a little button and if the object ball hit it then you would have made the shot. If not then you missed. The object ball would then roll back into place. I must have put in about 3-4 hours with this device and it did help me some but really it was frustrating trying to get that beep.
When Efren Reyes plays his object ball is all over the place, sometimes he hits center pocket, sometimes he hits the rail a diamond up table, sometimes he hits the far side of the pocket. He really uses the whole table.
I suppose that all of these devices are helpful to get a player to the ideal spot to pocket a ball in the center of the pocket. And I suppose that once a player develops the feel for where that is then they can make adjustments when they need to be somewhere other than center pocket.
I personally wouldn't buy one but I'd probably rent it or use it if there were one at the pool room that anyone could use.
I have always thought that a really good pool room should have a training table setup which makes use of all the devices, books, dvds and so on that are out there. What better way to retain customers than to instill a deep desire to get better?
For 3 easy paymets of $59.95, I would have expected very good quality... Thanks for all the feedback.
-Back2good1