Anyone ever done deal with jor23_lin ?

oneshotwiss

oneshotwiss

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First of all he is a buyer fron Taiwan who said he would buy my cue using Paypal. Then this morning I get a message from him saying he is updating a credit card with Paypal and would I consider doing a bank wire transfer? Now I am cautious when it comes to this stuff and that is where red flags start going up for me. I'm not saying he is not an honest buyer buy any means but this is where I get nervous and I am sure that my cue will not leave until I physically have the cash in my hand. After hearing so many other stories about other AZers getting burned I am just leary thats all. So has anyone ever done business with jor23_lin?
 
oneshotwiss said:
First of all he is a buyer fron Taiwan who said he would buy my cue using Paypal. Then this morning I get a message from him saying he is updating a credit card with Paypal and would I consider doing a bank wire transfer? Now I am cautious when it comes to this stuff and that is where red flags start going up for me. I'm not saying he is not an honest buyer buy any means but this is where I get nervous and I am sure that my cue will not leave until I physically have the cash in my hand. After hearing so many other stories about other AZers getting burned I am just leary thats all. So has anyone ever done business with jor23_lin?
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Since he requested Bank Wire Transfer, i see no risk on this one. Get the cash and send the cue, as simple as that. You already know what is happening with Paypal.
 
oneshotwiss said:
First of all he is a buyer fron Taiwan who said he would buy my cue using Paypal. Then this morning I get a message from him saying he is updating a credit card with Paypal and would I consider doing a bank wire transfer? Now I am cautious when it comes to this stuff and that is where red flags start going up for me. I'm not saying he is not an honest buyer buy any means but this is where I get nervous and I am sure that my cue will not leave until I physically have the cash in my hand. After hearing so many other stories about other AZers getting burned I am just leary thats all. So has anyone ever done business with jor23_lin?
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Here is a post I made a couple of years ago about wire transfers

no-sho said:
What is the problem with wire transfers. Owning a billiard company overseas, half of my transactions are wire transfers and normally takes 5 business days max.
I don't trust paypal or credit cards unless it's somebody I personally know.
You should see all the emails I receive that are credit card scams with stolen credit cards from all over the world.
There are many cue makers and company's that don't accept Credit Cards and I don't blame them.
I don't know how many times I have read on Az billiards about not selling to overseas buyers and bla, bla, bla. That you won't and never give out your banking info .................
If you look at most European Co. all their banking info is right on their website like it's on mine. It is the standard over here.
If you want to try and steal it, TRY. LOL
There is A REASON why all big international business is done with wire transfers!
Not with credit cards or Paypal.

no-sho
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oneshotwiss said:
First of all he is a buyer fron Taiwan who said he would buy my cue using Paypal. Then this morning I get a message from him saying he is updating a credit card with Paypal and would I consider doing a bank wire transfer? Now I am cautious when it comes to this stuff and that is where red flags start going up for me. I'm not saying he is not an honest buyer buy any means but this is where I get nervous and I am sure that my cue will not leave until I physically have the cash in my hand. After hearing so many other stories about other AZers getting burned I am just leary thats all. So has anyone ever done business with jor23_lin?
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Bankwire transfer is essentially a lot safter than paypal. Although there have been scams based on wire transfer, it does take a lot more knowledge on working the banking system, and is usually used for big money. It's just not worth the hassle for a few thousand bucks.Not any tom,dick or harry can do it. Your best bet is to receive the wire transfer and wait a few days, before sending out the item.
 
Haven't dealt with him, but I've done international bank wire transfers before. I think it's the safest way to move big money & not get screwed.
 
I'm basically agreeing with everyone else. I have had two deals with wire transfers (both with no-sho), and both went quite smoothly. Just be sure that the transfer clears to your account before you ship.

Chris
 
KeeFy said:
Bankwire transfer is essentially a lot safter than paypal. Although there have been scams based on wire transfer, it does take a lot more knowledge on working the banking system, and is usually used for big money. It's just not worth the hassle for a few thousand bucks.Not any tom,dick or harry can do it. Your best bet is to receive the wire transfer and wait a few days, before sending out the item.
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Sorry I have to disagree,
The scam isn't based on the wire transfer, the scam is based on a fake or bogus Cashiers check or bank check. You deposit the check and then make a wire transfer for a certain amount of the bogus Check to some other account and then it comes back that the check is not valid and your out the money.
That has nothing to do with a normal wire transfer!!!

no-sho
 
oneshotwiss said:
First of all he is a buyer fron Taiwan who said he would buy my cue using Paypal. Then this morning I get a message from him saying he is updating a credit card with Paypal and would I consider doing a bank wire transfer? Now I am cautious when it comes to this stuff and that is where red flags start going up for me. I'm not saying he is not an honest buyer buy any means but this is where I get nervous and I am sure that my cue will not leave until I physically have the cash in my hand. After hearing so many other stories about other AZers getting burned I am just leary thats all. So has anyone ever done business with jor23_lin?
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personally I would stick to using paypal as it is guaranteed upto a certain dollar amount - not sure what it is though.
 
hangemhigh said:
You are safe with the wire transfer, but even better is Western Union.
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I agree with Western Union. It can be done in just a few minutes. You pick up your cash... and then ship the item.
 
unicorncomputer said:
personally I would stick to using paypal as it is guaranteed upto a certain dollar amount - not sure what it is though.
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You need to do some research, Paypal is the easiest way to get stroked.

From experience,

Doug
 
no-sho said:
Sorry I have to disagree,
The scam isn't based on the wire transfer, the scam is based on a fake or bogus Cashiers check or bank check. You deposit the check and then make a wire transfer for a certain amount of the bogus Check to some other account and then it comes back that the check is not valid and your out the money.
That has nothing to do with a normal wire transfer!!!

no-sho
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I'm not talking about cashiers check or bank check scams, but rather real wire transfers. They are almost definitely, from few hundred grand and up. Rare, but has happened before. Thus as i said, they're not common, and wouldn't be used to try to rip off a few thousand dollars.
 
oneshotwiss, talk to your bank. They will explain the wire transfer procedure. It is very safe. I've done it here a few times. There is no cashiers check or bank check or any of that. It's a simple transfer for any amount.
 
Most people object to giving their bank account number to anyone, which is why Western Union is my chosen method. Also, most do not know the routing numbers for a bank transfer, and will have to contact their bank before the transaction can be completed.
 
I've accepted two wire transfers and have never given out my bank account information. You tell your bank about the transfer. Your bank gives the other bank a "code". When the transfer comes, your bank deposits the money into your account.
 
no-sho said:
Sorry I have to disagree,
The scam isn't based on the wire transfer, the scam is based on a fake or bogus Cashiers check or bank check. You deposit the check and then make a wire transfer for a certain amount of the bogus Check to some other account and then it comes back that the check is not valid and your out the money.
That has nothing to do with a normal wire transfer!!!

no-sho
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That sounds like the classic Nigerian scam. I think I will use wire transfer for all international sales from now on.
 
Mark- I've done two wire transfers for selling motorcycles overseas, both for 10k+, very safe and fast. Contact your bank, they will explain how it works.

Cory
 
Mark,

No worry with jor23_lin, he sold a few cases (beautiful cases)...last one was to Danktrees. Have you seen Jor23_lin collection? No problem selling to jor23_lin, paypal or bank wire.

I will eventually order a cuemaster case, just haven't got the design in mind yet. Probably will have my chinese name inscribed with my family theme.

Regards,
Duc.
 
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