Anyone here prefer heavy cue? (20 oz or higher)
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Keith McCready uses a Jack Madden custom-made cue which weighs more than 20 ounces.
I was told by Keith that it has something to do with the forward balance in the cue, where he likes the balance spot to be. He also likes his shafts to weigh at least 4 ounces or more, which is heavier than standard shaft weights.
Also, I think the heavier cue complements his side-armed stroke, where the balance is in the butt of the cue.
JAM
I was told by Keith that it has something to do with the forward balance in the cue, where he likes the balance spot to be. He also likes his shafts to weigh at least 4 ounces or more, which is heavier than standard shaft weights.
Also, I think the heavier cue complements his side-armed stroke, where the balance is in the butt of the cue.
JAM
I shoot with a 21oz cue
I've always preferred a heavier cue because I think I can feel my arm better if that makes any sense
. It's probably in my head
.
I also have a 32oz cue at home that I practice stroking into a coke bottle with when I'm not to lazy (which means close to never, lol).
I've always preferred a heavier cue because I think I can feel my arm better if that makes any sense. It's probably in my head .I also have a 32oz cue at home that I practice stroking into a coke bottle with when I'm not to lazy (which means close to never, lol).
hilla_hilla said:I shoot with a 21oz cue
I also have a 32oz cue at home that I practice stroking into a coke bottle with when I'm not to lazy (which means close to never, lol).
I started off playing snooker with a lighter cue and 11mm tip. But when I started playing more pool and 3-C, I went to a heavier cue and a bigger tip. I like a 20 oz or heavier.
JMHO
I shoot with an 18.75 oz. cue...I used to shoot with a 20.5 oz. Espuritu and it restricted the smooth flow of my stroke because I was always trying to control all that mass versus a nice smooth motion...
heavy cues
One point to consider when discussing heavier cues is what type of table cloth , balls and cueball are you playing on. The newer low weave cloths like Simonis etc require less force for the same kind of shots than the slower less expensive cloths. A lighter cue can be swung with a medium stroke and accomplish more on high speed cloth. A heavier cue causes us to let up on our stroke and 'baby' the ball around the table. I feel its easier to shoot more shots with a medium stroke than always trying to hold back the heavier cue. Over time cues have decreased in weight on average. The Hoppe generation had cues in the range of 20-22 ounces being average. Some of the earliest Ginas went from 19.5 to 21. Many of the pros today are asking for 18-19 ounces. Yes, there are some who still use heavier cues though. As times change with new equipment, so should players. Find what works for you best NOW. You are welcome to visit my website (www.triplecrosscues.com) and see what I offer. Maybe you can play better with one. Just my $0.02.
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
One point to consider when discussing heavier cues is what type of table cloth , balls and cueball are you playing on. The newer low weave cloths like Simonis etc require less force for the same kind of shots than the slower less expensive cloths. A lighter cue can be swung with a medium stroke and accomplish more on high speed cloth. A heavier cue causes us to let up on our stroke and 'baby' the ball around the table. I feel its easier to shoot more shots with a medium stroke than always trying to hold back the heavier cue. Over time cues have decreased in weight on average. The Hoppe generation had cues in the range of 20-22 ounces being average. Some of the earliest Ginas went from 19.5 to 21. Many of the pros today are asking for 18-19 ounces. Yes, there are some who still use heavier cues though. As times change with new equipment, so should players. Find what works for you best NOW. You are welcome to visit my website (www.triplecrosscues.com) and see what I offer. Maybe you can play better with one. Just my $0.02.
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
Heavy Cues
I play with an ebony and ivory Bill Schick that has a fat handle and weighs in at 20.5oz. I love it just the way Bill made it. The added weight gives me a feeling of confidence when playing heavy follow shots or shooting a cue that is frozen to the rail.
I played Sigel when he did an exhibition in my home town (1988). His Joss was just over 18 ounces. He told me the only difference was that the lighter cue was easier to hold after playing 20 hours straight! Then he ran out, banking the last 5 balls for fun.
I play with an ebony and ivory Bill Schick that has a fat handle and weighs in at 20.5oz. I love it just the way Bill made it. The added weight gives me a feeling of confidence when playing heavy follow shots or shooting a cue that is frozen to the rail.
I played Sigel when he did an exhibition in my home town (1988). His Joss was just over 18 ounces. He told me the only difference was that the lighter cue was easier to hold after playing 20 hours straight! Then he ran out, banking the last 5 balls for fun.
JAM said:
Forward balanced cues don't have the balance in the butt of the cue - ?
Anyway, just like in golf where you let the clubhead do the work when shooting irons, I like a heavier cue for a similar reason. You let the cue do the work versus having a tendency to muscle the shot with light cues.
I like to feel something there! Have you ever tried to have a straight backswing with no cue in hand. Light cues have a similar effect. I prefer to use a lot of follow and sometimes having a heavier cue makes it a little more difficult to draw, but to me the tradeoff is worth it.
whitewolf said:
A couple cues ago, Keith was shooting with a Bobby Hunter custom-made cue he bought off of Omar Kang, a very beautiful cue I might add. He wanted more forward balance and weight added.
He had Guido the Cue Mechanic add more weight, as well as pushing it up further in the butt.
JAM
JAM said:Oh, he's for real. I can't find his full name, but he goes to many tournaments. His real first name is Guido. I have his business card somewhere. If I locate it, I will post up his contact info!
JAM
Thanks JAM. Maybe I will see him at Valley Forge - ?
JAM said:Oh, he's for real. I can't find his full name, but he goes to many tournaments. His real first name is Guido. I have his business card somewhere. If I locate it, I will post up his contact info!
JAM
Name and contact info:
Guido Orlandi
Phone: 906/542-7069
guido@gocues.com
Channing Michigan
Good guy / interesting character, Guido can do it all!
Jigger said:
That's the guy, Guido the Cue Mechanic.
Here's a snippet of a post I wrote in September 2003 about Guido the Cue Mechanic: Now, I guess you all are wondering why I entitled this thread "Guido the Cue Mechanic." Guido Orlandi had his booth set up for the pool players and the few spectators who decided to show up, and he stayed busy the whole event. I've seen a few excellent cue mechanics in my day, but this guy impressed me.
Keith McCready recently obtained a Bobby Hunter cue stick from a friend about 3 months ago, and although he REALLY likes the cue stick, he wanted more forward balance for his "feels." So many times I have heard players rationalize why they didn't win their matches because of equipment problems (of course, it is never their fault). Keith asked Guido if he could help him get more forward balance and explained the guts of his cue stick to him. Guido said, "You are the first person who has ever asked me this question, about moving the balance inside of your cue stick, and I'm going to help you." I had visions of this new cue stick being shaved down just like the Schon cue that Keith used to own that ultimately was put up for auction on eBay.
Guido took the cue and placed it on a scale and somehow found out where the balance point was. He then performed surgery and took the cue stick apart and replaced a black-looking thick screw inside the butt of the cue and even pushed this weight up further inside the butt, a little over one inch from where it was previously, shifting the balance point. The previously weighted 19-1/4-ounce cue stick now weighs a little over 21. He also suggested that Keith's ivory ferrule was a little long and that if he chopped it off a little and replaced his Triangle tip with a soft (not medium, medium-hard, or hard) Moori, the stick would be a weapon of mass destruction. Only time will tell with this new and improved cue stick of Keith's, and he is hopeful that with a little practice and getting to know this "new" cue, this cue maintenance and overhaul will help him execute successfully some shots he has in his bag of tricks.
Yes, Guido was one happy guy at Capital City Classic, and probably one of the few, if not only, to enjoy a profit. He stayed busy the whole event and brought smiles to many a pool player with his cue maintenance capabilities. He had gadgets and tools I had never seen before and knew how to use them. He is truly a pool player's friend in need.
Picture of Guido at the Capital City Classic below talking to Jimmy Fusco!
JAM
