Anyone interested in this bank game?
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Harvywallbanger said:Your calling out ANYBODY on this forum to take the bet.I don't know man. I give you credit that after I thought about it it seems like a tough bet for me BUT.....anybody on this forum is invited
Credited. Who wants to re-post this in the "Ask the Pros" section?
I am an above average Bank Pool player and I don't know if I like this game.
It is NOT as easy as it sounds. No bank is a cinch, and you will run out of 'hangers' quick.
The question is, do you want to shoot one or two long rail banks for your cash? Even with BIH, they don't have to go.
If I'm in dead stroke I may try this game. And I've run five and out a zillion times playing Banks. A real strong Bank Pool player (Jason Miller) is a favorite here. An average Banker is an underdog.
Nice proposition though.
It is NOT as easy as it sounds. No bank is a cinch, and you will run out of 'hangers' quick.
The question is, do you want to shoot one or two long rail banks for your cash? Even with BIH, they don't have to go.
If I'm in dead stroke I may try this game. And I've run five and out a zillion times playing Banks. A real strong Bank Pool player (Jason Miller) is a favorite here. An average Banker is an underdog.
Nice proposition though.
You are right Jay....
For those who like this game.. How much and where.
For those who like this game.. How much and where.
Well I played around with it and my results are as follows...
Break'em hard and you WILL have to bank at least 2 long ways unless you get very lucky and there might be a ball in the way to boot.
Break'em soft and you are definately in trouble unless you like combo banking.
I would have to make 10 in a row in order to be up on the bet. I can make 5 in a row, sure, but 10 consistently.....not MY game. What sucks is that EVERY bank is for the money. You take a long bank and hang it your done. I could see a guys confidence get shattered pretty quickly on this bet. I might give it to someone sometime.
Anyways I would say on an average break you make one ball. Two or three will be on or very near the end rails. There will be balls in the middle with maybe two ducks. Once every couple games you will have to hit a 2 railer for the cash. Very nerv racking.
Coincidently what is your speed U12?
Break'em hard and you WILL have to bank at least 2 long ways unless you get very lucky and there might be a ball in the way to boot.
Break'em soft and you are definately in trouble unless you like combo banking.
I would have to make 10 in a row in order to be up on the bet. I can make 5 in a row, sure, but 10 consistently.....not MY game. What sucks is that EVERY bank is for the money. You take a long bank and hang it your done. I could see a guys confidence get shattered pretty quickly on this bet. I might give it to someone sometime.
Anyways I would say on an average break you make one ball. Two or three will be on or very near the end rails. There will be balls in the middle with maybe two ducks. Once every couple games you will have to hit a 2 railer for the cash. Very nerv racking.
Coincidently what is your speed U12?
hope you dont mind u12, but i'm going to offer some guys this game on monday night league.
i'll let you guys know if I MAKE or LOSE money....
i'm trying to think of guys i think could beat this.... if anybody knows glenn (heavy set black guy) from chicago, i know he's a really strong bank pool player.....
also u12... since this offer is out to anybody... does that include freddy the beard? i'm really interested to see if he would take it.
i'll let you guys know if I MAKE or LOSE money....
i'm trying to think of guys i think could beat this.... if anybody knows glenn (heavy set black guy) from chicago, i know he's a really strong bank pool player.....
also u12... since this offer is out to anybody... does that include freddy the beard? i'm really interested to see if he would take it.
Yes, that includes Freddy the Beard, Effren, Jose, Truman, ANYONE.
what kind of equipment
Depending on the type of equipment and where this game is played, I might have someone that is interested. Please let me knowu12armresl said:
Bank bet
I believe a lot depends upon the table. I shoot bank pool exclusively and own a nine foot Diamond with pro cut pockets. I practice banks typically 3 to 4 hours daily and play two standing matches on week ends. I consider my self an "A" rated bank player. I tried this bet and to my chagrin could not beat it and I have had many five and out runs prior. The tough put about this bet I find is finding after the break five dead banks on a consistent basis. You will always find one or two and sometimes three and four but rarely has it been my experience to find five dead banks each time. Thanks for turning me on to this bet. I am eager to trap some of my bank pool buddies on this one. Great post for those of us who like bank pool more than pocket games.
PS: I would like to see Jason Miller try this with ten racks in succession. Better yet, if he were back in his prime, Bugs Rucker. Lastly, I hope Freddy the Beard responds to this post.
Cross Side Larry
"Learn from the best and beat the rest"
I believe a lot depends upon the table. I shoot bank pool exclusively and own a nine foot Diamond with pro cut pockets. I practice banks typically 3 to 4 hours daily and play two standing matches on week ends. I consider my self an "A" rated bank player. I tried this bet and to my chagrin could not beat it and I have had many five and out runs prior. The tough put about this bet I find is finding after the break five dead banks on a consistent basis. You will always find one or two and sometimes three and four but rarely has it been my experience to find five dead banks each time. Thanks for turning me on to this bet. I am eager to trap some of my bank pool buddies on this one. Great post for those of us who like bank pool more than pocket games.
PS: I would like to see Jason Miller try this with ten racks in succession. Better yet, if he were back in his prime, Bugs Rucker. Lastly, I hope Freddy the Beard responds to this post.
Cross Side Larry
"Learn from the best and beat the rest"
I think you are right. I tried this last night for fun and was able to do 2 or 3 in a row but finding a legitimate chance to do 5 was tough. I am not what I would consider a great banker, anyway, but with ball in hand can do ok. I think this would be a tough bet to try and stay ahead of for most people.CrossSideLarry said:
I would assume that most of the 5 banks in a row comments were probably done after a couple of balls were made already. This would make a huge difference because many of the obstructions are gone, IMO.
You have to remember you get BIH for every shot...so every shot is a dead bank....needless to say this is no easy gamble...if you had a ball dead in the center where are you going to go with that??...not an easy cross-side bank, you're going to have make a hard to judge crosscorner or long bank the length of the table...odds are real good you'll hang it in the pocket...
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Players who could beat this game include:
Eddie Taylor
Bugs Rucker
Cannonball (John Chapman)
Buddy Hall (close call here)
Maybes include:
Jason Miller (maybe the only favorite playing currently)
Danny Harriman
John Brumbach
Shannon D.
Cliff J.
Tony Fargo
Mike Sigel (in the past)
Nick Varner
Mark Jarvis
Wade Crane (also historically)
Earl
Truman (also past tense)
If your name is not on this list, you need not apply. The only one I might bet on would be Jason. He can be a little other-worldly at Banks.
I do believe Taylor and Bugs would have beaten this game. No one today banks like these two. They were definitely better than even money to run five with BIH. IMHO
Eddie Taylor
Bugs Rucker
Cannonball (John Chapman)
Buddy Hall (close call here)
Maybes include:
Jason Miller (maybe the only favorite playing currently)
Danny Harriman
John Brumbach
Shannon D.
Cliff J.
Tony Fargo
Mike Sigel (in the past)
Nick Varner
Mark Jarvis
Wade Crane (also historically)
Earl
Truman (also past tense)
If your name is not on this list, you need not apply. The only one I might bet on would be Jason. He can be a little other-worldly at Banks.
I do believe Taylor and Bugs would have beaten this game. No one today banks like these two. They were definitely better than even money to run five with BIH. IMHO
jay helfert said:
Forgot to add Gary Spaeth to the list of maybes, when he was alive and well. He was one of the top three in his day.
Billy,
It can be on a 9 ft Gold Crown or a 9 ft Diamond
Jay,
Jarvis turned down this game already.
Any of the other people on that list can have the game.
The problem with posting a game like this is people want to do it for $5 a game or some such amount and then more times than not they quit after a few games and then they turn around and take the game and give it to others lol
It can be on a 9 ft Gold Crown or a 9 ft Diamond
Jay,
Jarvis turned down this game already.
Any of the other people on that list can have the game.
The problem with posting a game like this is people want to do it for $5 a game or some such amount and then more times than not they quit after a few games and then they turn around and take the game and give it to others lol
u12armresl said:
Like I said, the only logical threat is Jason Miller. He might run 15 or 20 one time with BIH. That's what you have to do to beat the game. I strongly believe Taylor (especially) and Bugs would have made you pull up. They played banks good enough to outrun the nuts. Just ask Freddie.
Five in a row was almost a joke to Taylor. He used to play good players "four no count" in full rack banks. Once the balls were open, he was a threat to run seven or eight on his first turn. I watched him practice many times and he would throw all 15 balls on the table and start banking. He would often hit ten or more in a row (without BIH). And occasionally make all 15! You can't really appreciate how good he was, unless you saw it for yourself. He just didn't miss banks!
He was two speeds above anyone playing today (including Jason). And I'd rate Bugs a half ball under Taylor. Bugs could make the most extraordinary banks you ever saw, and make it look routine. No one (including Taylor) could ever shoot cross angle long rail banks like Bugs. Simply amazing how he read those angles.
I will agree Jay with Bugs's ability to make incredible shots.
At Executive Billiards in Indianapolis Bugs came in many times and showed shots that seemed unhuman. One such shot I was able to pick up and can now do with a pretty high accuracy.
The one where the cueball and object ball are a few inches from the side pocket and also the cueball and object ball are a few inches from each other and you cut the ball into the corner pocket without scratching by hitting it so hard that it smacks the back of the pocket and comes back on to the table.
At Executive Billiards in Indianapolis Bugs came in many times and showed shots that seemed unhuman. One such shot I was able to pick up and can now do with a pretty high accuracy.
The one where the cueball and object ball are a few inches from the side pocket and also the cueball and object ball are a few inches from each other and you cut the ball into the corner pocket without scratching by hitting it so hard that it smacks the back of the pocket and comes back on to the table.