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Mr. Bass Man

Mr. Bass Man

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I just recieved this cue. It is well made, long splice with thin veneers, hoppe style, Irish linen wrap coated in beeswax, radial pin with a flat faced wood to wood joint and phenolic collars. The only markings on the cue are what I've pictured, figured one of you guys may have made it
 

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Once upon a time, coating linen with beeswax was a technique used to get that super smooth feel.

Dale
 
EightballJunkie said:
Humor me, how does one know if a wrap had been waxed and specifically what kind of wax was used if the original person who did the wrap is unknown or unavailable to ask???




Is anyone still doing this? The OP's cue doesn't really look vintage (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=355347), but maybe there are a few that still use wax on their wraps ...seems like the general consensus is that wax on a wrap is not a good thing as tends to hold dirt and grime.
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There are two ways to tell if it has bees wax or paraffin wax on it. During pressing, the wax will build up on the rollers of the press & the wrap will look like it has a whitish film growing on it, and it won't shine up. If you have to put a paper towel on it and burnish it to make it shine, then it is contaminated with wax. IMHO, it's a for sure sign that whoever did it doesn't know how to do the job properly. :eek:
 
EightballJunkie said:
Humor me, how does one know if a wrap had been waxed and specifically what kind of wax was used if the original person who did the wrap is unknown or unavailable to ask???




Is anyone still doing this? The OP's cue doesn't really look vintage (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=355347), but maybe there are a few that still use wax on their wraps ...seems like the general consensus is that wax on a wrap is not a good thing as tends to hold dirt and grime.
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It smells like beeswax to me, used to farm bees when I was a kid and the smell is unmistakeable. As far as the vintage, I do believe the cue is older than it looks. I work with wood myself and after a piece has been finished the woods still tend to shift a little, on this cue the woods have really settled and you can feel the contraction in the points. There is a possibility that the cue has also been refinished though I cannot verify it, my only clue is that the signature has slight smears as though it has been lathe turned post signing. All in all it is possibly the best hitting cue I own and I still can't seem to find any cues with points that are this sharp and even, not to mention the colors on the full splice pop like they were neon. The closest resemblance to the joint/pin/butt that I can find is southwest but the pin has no markings(from my understanding most if not all southwest pins have a marking at the tip). This cue was definately made by a very skilled set of hands, any ideas?
 
15 years or so ago, I was offered some linen imported from the far east. The roll was waxed with what seemed to be bees wax. It was cheaper but since I wouldn't use it I passed.
 
Ted Harris said:
There are two ways to tell if it has bees wax or paraffin wax on it. During pressing, the wax will build up on the rollers of the press & the wrap will look like it has a whitish film growing on it, and It won't shine up. If you have to put a paper towel on it and burnish It to make t shine, then it is contaminated with wax. IMHO, it's a for sure sign that whoever did it doesn't know how to do the job properly. :eek:
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Sounds Like that comes from someone who can still remember making that mistake once upon a time or has tried to fix one, because You are dead on with all of what you mentioned. I made the mistake of using It on one of My personal cues many years ago. Made sure I never did that again. What a mess. Makes the wrap feel like crap anyhow. Even If You are able to shine the wrap up, It doesn't last, It turns dull, and much like the paper towels, It seems to pull the dead skin from Your hands while Your using the cue.
 
Cue Crazy said:
Sounds Like that comes from someone who can still remember making that mistake once upon a time or has tried to fix one, because You are dead on with all of what you mentioned. I made the mistake of using It on one of My personal cues many years ago. Made sure I never did that again. What a mess. Makes the wrap feel like crap anyhow. Even If You are able to shine the wrap up, It doesn't last, It turns dull, and much like the paper towels, It seems to pull the dead skin from Your hands while Your using the cue.
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I've had issues with most finishes and wraps deteriorating unless they are leather or unfinished as my hands are very acidic. The wrap on the cue feels great to me though I'm fairly certain it is not original, the diameter of the wrap is slightly smaller than the depth of the channel. Considering the rest of the cues craftsmanship it seems like it isn't on par though it is well done. From what you guys are saying it seems like the wrap was either done a while back or by an old schooler who refused to change(or possibly a novice) Aside from the wrap, do you guys think this is a southwest cue?
 

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SW, Not in a heartbeat. Looks like it says SL'12 to me. The veneers are titlist colored, but the veneers look to nice to be a titlist.
 
I don't know the story on using any type of wax on a wrap but we used to keep bees as well.

You can usually smell the difference. Very distinct.
 
Wax

Just had some work done on a Canadian Duff -- wrap was (Leagull linen)
Old stuff feels like cortland made in Canada.
Had the wrap pressed only and when I received the cue I took some wax paper
And went over the grip to smooth it out --- for me - perfect feel.
Mcp.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
I don't know the story on using any type of wax on a wrap but we used to keep bees as well.

You can usually smell the difference. Very distinct.
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I actually love the smell, as I get warmed up it does too. It's very calming ironically, btw I mistakenly said radial pin it is not a radial pin
 

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