APA Forum

I play APA and I don't drink when I play and I love pool. The reason why I'm on this site is because of my love for the game. It should not matter what game or league or whatever you do its still pool and everyone is here for the same reason, love of the game.

I don't really care if there is a APA forum on AZ or not because if I have a question or if something happened in league play, I will post it anyways. I started apa as a 4 and went down to a 3 and then spent 6 hours a day for a few years in the pool hall playing and it's payed off. I play APA and practice to get better, but i know at some point if I want my game to advance that I will have to quit playing in the APA and when that time comes, i will stop. This week I start playing an in-house 9ball league that has NOTHING to do with the APA so i can't wait for that.

I have a table at home that I got from one of the local pool room owners and I very rarely have to pay for playing time, so I practice all the time!
 
APA7 said:
I feel the APA has a place in pool. Pool iz better 4 having the APA. I dont see it hurting pool N I dont understand the haters.
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I agree with most everything here as well.

Just to be clear, I believe there is a distinction between the haters and improvers.
  1. The haters, seem to love their hating. So it'll be there. No matter what happens they will always find a negative.
  2. The improvers have some ideas on how it could be better. Yet, they may still be OK with participating in it. Sometimes they just live in a dream world.
 
Snapshot9 said:
The APA needs a much more discrete handicap system to rid itself of sandbagging. The base handicapping system is flawed, and they have, over the years, tried to band-aid it to make up for it's flawed system (23 max rule).
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You hit a grand slam with that post!

Even with their flaws, it's amazing how much of it actually works. And works better than many people think.

Although, I know of just such a solution (a more discrete handicap system). The question arises, even if there is such a solution, what do you do with it next?

1 simple answer is to create a new competitor league. But that's going to take alotta time and committment to build up... Not many have the qualities necessary to fulfill on that.
 
FLICKit said:
You hit a grand slam with that post!

Even with their flaws, it's amazing how much of it actually works. And works better than many people think.

Although, I know of just such a solution (a more discrete handicap system). The question arises, even if there is such a solution, what do you do with it next?

1 simple answer is to create a new competitor league. But that's going to take alotta time and committment to build up... Not many have the qualities necessary to fulfill on that.
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Keep on, keepin' on Flick.............:grin-square:

td
 
APA 9-ball SL Breakdown

Does one know if skill level grouping for 9-ball be different in 2 different franchises? Trying to determine if SL 6 is upper skill or medium skill level

Thanks
 
APA 9-ball SL Breakdown

Does one know if skill level grouping for 9-ball be different in 2 different franchises? Trying to determine if SL 6 is upper skill or medium skill level

Thanks
 
apa is what it is

I play a bca house league at one spot. 14:1 league at another hall. Apa masters at yet another hall and regular team apa once a week the first 3 I take seriously the latter i go out drink beer eat wings but more times than not i instruct my friends on how to play proper and stay classy. I have a great time and as far as sandbaggers EFFEM i crush them too even the best baggers are still third rate players who cares.
 
rbtabor said:
Does one know if skill level grouping for 9-ball be different in 2 different franchises? Trying to determine if SL 6 is upper skill or medium skill level

Thanks
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You should have started your own thread instead of posting at the end of an old one.

Skill ratings for APA (and any handicapped league) would vary from area to area and room to room. Since your win/loss ratio counts towards the rank, if you play in a room of high level players, you can have many losses but only because the others are better than you. Once paired with a national average, a 6 can be as good as a 7 or even an 8 from another area.

But the rest of the question is a bit odd, since the rankings go to 9, a 6 is NOT the upper skill level. 9 would be. Relative to the rest of the area at least.
 
To answer your question the National Rule in APA 9 Ball is SL 6 and up, the significance of this is that your only allowed to play 2 upper Level Players per night. Anything more would possibly make playing 5 players almost impossible.

Black Cat :cool:
 
The idea sounds good but I think it would be more productive to make a larger separate section for all league players, bar and casual players. Those topics get bashed way too much here and sooner or later every thread turns into a fistfight :angry:
 
The whole bar rules lets be bar banger thing needs to die and go away forever
At least apa players use semifunctional rules
 
I have played all the leagues and prefer to play APA. I am a S L 7 and 9. I like the competition. I enjoy it when they toss off and throw a 2 or 3 out there. It makes me slow down and concentrate or loose. All the sandbagging argument's and all the B.S. on here is just like the old " the table rolled off" excuse. Your both playing on the same table and both using the same rules. Get over yourself. If you didn't miss they wouldn't have had the chance to "sandbag" and beat you. As for this thought of people that play APA are a bunch of hacks and bangers well perhaps that's true, I know I could never be as good as the expert players on here that never miss a ball from there little keyboard. Some how I will have to live with this sad fact. There are however some very strong players that play APA... Jeff Sergent... Brian Parks... many many more. Its cracks me up that some people can't get out of the way of there own ego on here.

Any league that brings in thousands of player a year and introduces them to our favorite past time is a good thing. I wish Mr. Griffin luck with his league. Many have tried to bring down the big 2 to no avail but ya never know.
 
Black Cat 5791 said:
I'll pose a question to you sir, would you play in a Pool League that only had the best players in the area, S/L 6 or better, no handicaps, Race to 7, play 8 ball and 9 ball the same night, with no coaching or timeouts allowed, it's man or woman, mono a mono, would something like that interest you for $13.00 dollars per match? How much do you spend a week just in table time alone unless you have a table at home.

Just curious please answer honestly. :poke:

Black Cat :cool:
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YES!

I would also like to go on record saying that even though I play APA 8 and 9 ball, I hate the APA and dream of the day another league forms in my area. The current structure sucks.
 
Wright Shot said:
YES!

I would also like to go on record saying that even though I play APA 8 and 9 ball, I hate the APA and dream of the day another league forms in my area. The current structure sucks.
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Even though your not the original person that the question was for, and it did take 5 years to be answered, the solution is start a Masters Division. You only need 4 people per team and it's blast, compared to regular league. Contact your local APA office and tell them you'd like to be a Division Rep and start a division.

Black Cat :cool:
 
id005802 said:
I have played all the leagues and prefer to play APA. I am a S L 7 and 9. I like the competition. I enjoy it when they toss off and throw a 2 or 3 out there. It makes me slow down and concentrate or loose. All the sandbagging argument's and all the B.S. on here is just like the old " the table rolled off" excuse. Your both playing on the same table and both using the same rules. Get over yourself. If you didn't miss they wouldn't have had the chance to "sandbag" and beat you. As for this thought of people that play APA are a bunch of hacks and bangers well perhaps that's true, I know I could never be as good as the expert players on here that never miss a ball from there little keyboard. Some how I will have to live with this sad fact. There are however some very strong players that play APA... Jeff Sergent... Brian Parks... many many more. Its cracks me up that some people can't get out of the way of there own ego on here.

Any league that brings in thousands of player a year and introduces them to our favorite past time is a good thing. I wish Mr. Griffin luck with his league. Many have tried to bring down the big 2 to no avail but ya never know.
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Pretty much what he said!

I play both BCA and APA. I enjoy both for separate reasons, but it was the APA that really got me started.
 
Black Cat 5791 said:
Even though your not the original person that the question was for, and it did take 5 years to be answered, the solution is start a Masters Division. You only need 4 people per team and it's blast, compared to regular league. Contact your local APA office and tell them you'd like to be a Division Rep and start a division.

Black Cat :cool:
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Actually the reason this post was "rediscovered" LOL, was that someone posted a question in it about rankings, not about having a forum section for the APA.

Although a forum on leagues may not be a bad idea, it's a large part of pool and has it's own subculture.
 
leto1776 said:
If it weren't for bar pool, most people would never learn anything about pool, period.
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And after bar pool, they still won't know :wink:

Knowing that the balls are round and there are 6 holes on the edges of the table is not "learning about pool" hehe.
 
We have a Carom, Snooker, and 14.1 section but as soon as you mention the APA people come out of the woodwork offering the same few arguments against the APA. These complaints are often not the system thats broke, but the people using it and running it. The APA is franchised. Therefore you are going to get just as many variables in the league as you do with people in general. The handicapping system works. Inherent in handicapping is sandbagging. I know the contingency that says, "we don't need handicaps." However, pool is not poker, and yes we do need them. We also need to take into account, even if NOBODY sandbagged, people are going to be upset when losses occur. Hmmmm, who to blame?....who to blame?....my stroke?, my opponent playing better even for their handicap? No, of course not. Lets blame the APA and its SL system that didn't work....the one night I got beat real bad by a 4. Is there a magic pool league somewhere that is going to fix all of the supposed problems with the APA? Maybe. But while your sitting around waiting for it and the flying car, you could get out and have fun on a league night instead.

This forum should have an APA section. I mean let the league players get off the main forum so all the hardcore players can negotiate their one pocket spots.
 
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