APA session playoffs insanity

ScottW

ScottW

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So my APA 8-ball team took 1st for the regular session by a huuuuge margin. Best session ever. First week of playoffs was tonight - we being in 1st got to play the team who got in by drawing the wild card (2nd/3rd played each other). The team that got in is one we've generally done well against.

We started off not doing as well. Got through four matches, we were 2-2. All that's left on their team is their occasionally-playing SL7. I've got a 3 and a 4. I throw the 3 up on'em, a girl, making it a 6-2 race.

So this guy starts off kinda cautious, I figure, plus apparently he's got a bit of a bum shoulder from a recent injury. Games go a few more innings than expected, and he's up 4-0.

Fifth game, he's shooting some balls... and he sinks the eight ball early. Wow. 4-1, she's on the hill.

He racks, she breaks, comes up dry. SL7 steps up, shoots a ball, makes it... shoots again... SINKS THE EIGHT EARLY AGAIN. Twice in three shots. My teammate wins 4-2 - we win the night, 3-2.

Insane! Have any of you folks seen such an outrageously unlikely outcome?
 
That happens quite often when a SL7 plays a SL3. The 7 can technically only lose one game and has to win 6 otherwise the 7 loses. With slop and making the 8 on the break it is really hard for a 7 to win. I have lost by defeating myself many times. Sink the 8 out of turn and then making the 8 on the break and scratching or having the CB jump off of the table. Making a ball on the break and then not having a shot at that group also hurts. You try to make a hit and maybe knock in the 8 or end up giving BIH. That player can now control the table and end up winning.

Not at all unusual or outrageous.
 
ScottW said:
Insane! Have any of you folks seen such an outrageously unlikely outcome?
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No, and just reading about it is giving me the creeps. Our session ending playoffs are on the 9th and this is definitely not adding to my carma. Was the dude on drugs or something? Oh I know, maybe he was a nine ball player. :D :D :D
 
The Flip Side of the Coin

My Tuesday APA 8 ball team finished dead last during the session. We drew a wild card and had to play the first place team last Tuesday. We totally blew them out of the water.
It started with a match up between sl4's. Our guy won 3 straight and left his opponent with 6 on the table in the final game. I (sl4) had to play one of their 3's, and I took 3 straight games when my opponent scratched on the 8 to lose the 3rd game. Then our 6 played their 7 and their 7 managed to win only one game...What a great night.
Triannuals drawing is on Tuesday and will be played next weekend. My early prediction is that we'll be going to state and hoefully to Vegas.....

McCue Banger McCue
 
TheBook said:
That happens quite often when a SL7 plays a SL3. The 7 can technically only lose one game and has to win 6 otherwise the 7 loses. With slop and making the 8 on the break it is really hard for a 7 to win. I have lost by defeating myself many times. Sink the 8 out of turn and then making the 8 on the break and scratching or having the CB jump off of the table. Making a ball on the break and then not having a shot at that group also hurts. You try to make a hit and maybe knock in the 8 or end up giving BIH. That player can now control the table and end up winning.

Not at all unusual or outrageous.
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That doesn't happen with the SL7s in our leage, let me tell you. A few of those guys would/should be way above SL7s, and are far better than the SL6s.
 
Something similar

My SL2 played a SL5 for the semis at the Tri. Comes down to a 2 to 2 race with my player showing absolutely no signs of life.

The SL5 makes the 8 out of turn, and announces to his team (and everyone in earshot) not to worry, because he’s got this one.

My SL2 starts the next rack slowly. After a couple innings, my SL2 runs 5 balls to win the match. What a relief!

We went on to win that year, and my team voted her the tournament MVP. She was thrilled, because she had never won anything before (a more mature lady).

Congrats to you! - David
 
42NateBaller said:
My SL2 played a SL5 for the semis at the Tri. Comes down to a 2 to 2 race with my player showing absolutely no signs of life.

The SL5 makes the 8 out of turn, and announces to his team (and everyone in earshot) not to worry, because he’s got this one.

My SL2 starts the next rack slowly. After a couple innings, my SL2 runs 5 balls to win the match. What a relief!

We went on to win that year, and my team voted her the tournament MVP. She was thrilled, because she had never won anything before (a more mature lady).

Congrats to you! - David
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SL2 running 5 balls under the bright lights of trhe Tri? Sandbagger!@#:p
 
Gregg said:
That doesn't happen with the SL7s in our leage, let me tell you. A few of those guys would/should be way above SL7s, and are far better than the SL6s.
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Same here. Even if he was a lower 7, that poor dude has gotta be doing some MAJOR soul searching right now. :eek: :confused: :mad: :o :(
 
I am just so proud of our APA team this summer. We finished in first place by about 6 points, so the race was a bit tight. This is the first time with this group that we have finished first in the regular season. The season highlights include my 9 mo. pregnant 2 getting a win in a clutch match against the second place team, a season sweep by moi, and one of my 3's losing only a single match. Everybody played extremely well and it has been a real treat of a season. We don't start playoffs until 10 days from now since the wildcard is yet to be determined, but I really feel like we have a great chance to take 1st. All 8 of my players are playing well at their levels and that is all I can ask for.

Incidentally, even though a 2 or 3 only needs to win a very few games against a 7, I still don't sweat those match-ups. I have only ever dropped the eight in the worng place once and never scratched on it in one of these matches. It isn't that I am that good, but I will play a safe rather than putting myself in that kind of danger when I can only afford a single loss. I play a bit more cautious, or choose shots with very low chances of automatic losses. I played against four 3's this season and all of them were selected to play against me since I put myself up first. Why people think their 3 is going to win is beyond me. Maybe they are just throwing a set away, who knows? Half the time any decent 5 would have killed me for missing shots that I missed in those match-ups.
 
I played against four 3's this season and all of them were selected to play against me since I put myself up first. Why people think their 3 is going to win is beyond me. Maybe they are just throwing a set away, who knows? Half the time any decent 5 would have killed me for missing shots that I missed in those match-ups.
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They were either sacrificing or their 3 was underranked. Some 5s will get sloppy against a 2-3 and wind up having to win out with their opponent on the hill. It is usually an indicator that the captain has little faith in his/her mid level players and is planning to try to win with the big guns. We had a team like this in the spring (3,3,4,5,5,5,6,7). Our 3 was more seasoned than the 4 and 5s and did better under pressure. Our 6(me) and 7 were about 85%. In reality this team was better on paper than it was in real life. Maybe next year. Pay attention to moves like this as this is a major tell.

Chris in Denver
 
TheBook said:
That happens quite often when a SL7 plays a SL3. The 7 can technically only lose one game and has to win 6 otherwise the 7 loses. With slop and making the 8 on the break it is really hard for a 7 to win. I have lost by defeating myself many times. Sink the 8 out of turn and then making the 8 on the break and scratching or having the CB jump off of the table. Making a ball on the break and then not having a shot at that group also hurts. You try to make a hit and maybe knock in the 8 or end up giving BIH. That player can now control the table and end up winning.

Not at all unusual or outrageous.
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Do you gamble? I'd love to play you.
 
glad i'm not the only one with insanity this session...
mon nite 8ball.
1 up on 2nd place going to last week, we win 3 and then drop to 2nd place...

draw 3rd place team as we are 2nd but at home location-great.
throw our 5 who has been on the team since inception. Loses to a 4.. should never have- he played terrible. I threw him as i knew myself and my 6 would win so it woulda been a quick nite...

so down 1.
they throw on of their 6's to get ahead. Throw mine. Win. Now 1-1

We Throw a new girl who i've been working with who's a 3 now. They throw a four. She gets on the hill then on the 8. He has one ball left. She scratches. Loss.

Now 2-1
Our throw- have to throw myself to get into it. They throw their other 6. He shot like 4 times. 4 zip. Win. Now it's 2-2

My other teammate since inception a 4. throw their last player a girl 2 <that's all they could fit> long first game, he makes stupid leave on the 8 and misses, she runs out... now on the hill... she breaks, he makes a ball then tosses the 8 in with 14 balls on the table.... CRAP
so now it's 7 times we were in first or second and could not close the deal.... depressed...

On other hand thursday nite double jeapordy won 8 and 9. Regionals in 2 weeks.... we did throw our 3 against their seasoned 7 in 8ball and she had him... he made a bad bank on the 8 made her on the hill, then he got REAL nervous... she missed her last ball easy shot with 8 hangin' in the corner... We won anyhow but what a match... she coulda easily 'stole' that match for us..
APA just for fun anyways........
 
Gregg said:
That doesn't happen with the SL7s in our leage, let me tell you. A few of those guys would/should be way above SL7s, and are far better than the SL6s.
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No way a 'Super' SL7 would ever lose two games to an SL3. SL7 is the biggest range by far. The highest ranked SL6 I know is a C+, with the majority being solid C players. I know a couple of SL7s that are ranked C+, even one an astonishing D+. A Super 7 ranked B+, A or A+ should really be giving 2 games to these SL7s, and would never lose to SL2s or SL3s.
 
hobokenapa said:
No way a 'Super' SL7 would ever lose two games to an SL3. SL7 is the biggest range by far. The highest ranked SL6 I know is a C+, with the majority being solid C players. I know a couple of SL7s that are ranked C+, even one an astonishing D+. A Super 7 ranked B+, A or A+ should really be giving 2 games to these SL7s, and would never lose to SL2s or SL3s.
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Very true...many 8 ball SL 7s are 9 ball SL 7s also while a few are SL 9s in 9 ball. Even then, some of those SL 9s are way above the other SL 9s in ability. I have seen SL 9s in our league break and run 5-6 racks before. Once, I watched while one SL 9 beat another 75-4.

Against the lower SL players, the rule is "make the balls you are supposed to make, then leave them tough. NO mistakes."
 
During the Winter/spring session for our 8ball league, the team i was on played crappy!! And we had high hopes too, because we came into the session with 2 new people, who are season'd 2's, another 2, the team captain whos a 3/4 depending on the week, another girl who's a 4, me a 6, another 6 and our ringer who was a 6 but became a 7.

So most weeks we'd play 2,3,6,6,7. or 2,3,4,6,7 or something like that.

Anyways the whole session we are playing crappy, most of the time taking 2 points a week. We end up out of 8teams i think 6th lol. But somehow get the wild card!

The first place team was in the lead the whole session and ended up finishing almost 15points ahead of the 2nd place team.

Well first week of playoffs come, and it comes down to the last match we have our girl 4 playing thier girl 3, who should be a 4 or 5. Our 6 and 7 won thier match easily.

Well the match is back n forth both of the girls exchanging games. and both girls end up on the hill.

Our girl has the 8ball left with the cueball just off the end rail, by the head spot. and the 8ball is by the left side pocket but about a 1/2 past the pocket. Her opponent has her lone ball down by the left corner pocket. So even if he makes the 8ball she could come off the other ball and scratch, and she had no time outs!

So shes studying the shot for a bit, and gets up and back cuts the 8ball into the side pocket and somehow miss's her opponents ball but the CB comes all the way back down the table and rattles in the corner pocket, but doesnt fall!!! everyone on both sides gasped at the shot and couldnt believe the CB didnt scratch in either pockets. If i knew how to use the WEI table i would, post the shot.
 
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