Best ball for the $$. Newest Duramith formula: https://www.seyberts.com/pool-balls-single/aramith-tournament-cue-ball-black-logo/
Aramith Blue Circle Cue Ball
- Thread starter Chip Roberson
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I have that cue ball and several others. IMO, it’s not superior to use than the older blue circle Centennial Ball.
The weight of the cue ball is very important and the closer in weight to the object balls, the better it performs.
Remember the BCA & WPA rules allow for pool balls to deviate in weight and the allowable variance is 1/2 oz.
So you can have a cue ball weighing up to as much as 1/2 oz. lighter or heavier than the object balls in the rack.
Dr. Dave should do a review of the physics involved with using a lighter and a heavier cue ball. It goes without
saying key principles still hold true but accomplishing shape is different, ex., drawing the cue ball or follow shots.
I have a small inventory of pool balls and cue balls. I’ll try and get some photos later to show the different cue balls.
I said best ball for the money and i believe that. Its uses their latest formulation and its half the price of a BC. Weighs same as object balls as it should.
So what is the weight of the object balls? I measure pool balls and pool cues in grams rather than ounces.
It tends to be more precise. Object ball weight can and does vary from brand to brand. There isn’t a standard
weight, only stipulated a weight range which can & does fluctuate depending on the brand & age of the balls.
The main point is there isn’t any fixed weight for a cue ball or any object balls by any sanctioning entity. So it
is the underlying reason why pool manufacturers have flexibility in determining the final weight of the pool balls.
I think it is way too generous and tolerances should be tighter. But that would involve discarding a lot of pool balls.
A friend recently bought a set of Dynasphere Bronze. All 16 balls weigh the same. Even tighter tolerance than Aramith Tournaments. Every RC cueball i've weighed(about 10) all were at least 6grams lighter than object balls. They play like shit.
I haven’t viewed in person the Dynashere brand of pool balls so I’m in the dark about that line.
Here’s my small inventory of pool balls. One brand I bought & resold within 48 hrs was Cyclops.
It wasn’t my cup of tea so afterward I just used the proceeds & got an extra new Centennial set.
Here’s my small inventory of pool balls. One brand I bought & resold within 48 hrs was Cyclops.
It wasn’t my cup of tea so afterward I just used the proceeds & got an extra new Centennial set.
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i recently contacted aramith regarding tournament vs super pro as i need to replace a set
i know this is off topic but it may be usefull to someone
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Dear Sir,
Thank you for your e.mail.
The Aramith pool ball sets come in different types with different specifications.
From low end to high end :
- Crown Standard set uses our basic "Premier" resin, and contains some second quality balls (slight cosmetic defects that don't affect playability).
- Premier set uses the same Aramith Premier resin as the Crown Standard. All balls are first quality and the cosmetic is different
- Premium set uses the Aramith Premium resin, a higher end resin creating a vitrification layer which is a translucent and very hard external layer. For this reason the numbers look a little bit fuzzy.
- Super Aramith Pro sets use the Aramith PRO resin, featuring a deeper vitrification layer. In addition the sets are matched to minimize the weight difference within a set.
- Tournament sets use the same Aramith PRO resin, but are produced using a proprietary technology called Duramith, allowing a longer lifetime.
The BLACK set belongs to the Aramith Tournament family.
More information is available on our website : www.aramith.com
Hoping this answers your request,
Best regards.
ARAMITH - BELGIUM.
i know this is off topic but it may be usefull to someone
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Dear Sir,
Thank you for your e.mail.
The Aramith pool ball sets come in different types with different specifications.
From low end to high end :
- Crown Standard set uses our basic "Premier" resin, and contains some second quality balls (slight cosmetic defects that don't affect playability).
- Premier set uses the same Aramith Premier resin as the Crown Standard. All balls are first quality and the cosmetic is different
- Premium set uses the Aramith Premium resin, a higher end resin creating a vitrification layer which is a translucent and very hard external layer. For this reason the numbers look a little bit fuzzy.
- Super Aramith Pro sets use the Aramith PRO resin, featuring a deeper vitrification layer. In addition the sets are matched to minimize the weight difference within a set.
- Tournament sets use the same Aramith PRO resin, but are produced using a proprietary technology called Duramith, allowing a longer lifetime.
The BLACK set belongs to the Aramith Tournament family.
More information is available on our website : www.aramith.com
Hoping this answers your request,
Best regards.
ARAMITH - BELGIUM.
Thanks…..that clearly differentiates the various Aramith lines and garczar wrote he spoke with someone at Aramith.
My gut tells me that that Brunswick would want to have some differentiation in the resin used but maybe not. Like
I originally posted, I haven’t any way of knowing. But what I do know that something in writing is more persuasive
and substantive than information ascertained from conversation (no disrespect to garczar implied). I can’t imagine
Brunswick authorizing Saluc, using the Brunswick name, to not use the very best resin product Saluc has available.
I don’t know one way or the other but brand name importance tells me that Brunswick would only want the very best.
Appreciate all the help with reply's and such. Have ordered the Blue Circle to replace the old one and am ordering the black Aramith tourney
for giggles . Over the last 50 years of playing, I never liked the lighter weight cue ball in play. Even in 9 ball the thought with me was that the cue ball should be the same weight as the object ball.
for giggles . Over the last 50 years of playing, I never liked the lighter weight cue ball in play. Even in 9 ball the thought with me was that the cue ball should be the same weight as the object ball.
Two places I checked the Black cue balls are out of stock.
Explain this please.
Tough to explain but the lighter cueball just makes the ob react different when banking. The red circle is just no good in general. All its good for is making people with no stroke draw the ball.
Red Circle, Blue Circle, Measle, they all weigh the same, 168 grams when new.
The Red Circle is easier to draw because the compound is different, closer to a carom finish, or the same as carom. It takes and retains spin more. They are not lighter.
All the best,
WW
The Red Circle is easier to draw because the compound is different, closer to a carom finish, or the same as carom. It takes and retains spin more. They are not lighter.
All the best,
WW
I've weighed brand-new ones that were 162-164. BC and Measels are all in the 166-169 area.
Nyquil
Well-known member
I agree with you on this garczar. This is the ball I have, but I wish the aramith black measel ball was avail. It uses the duramith tech and I like playing with a measel vs just one dot. Helps me see if I am putting unnecessary English on shots during the game. To your point though for the price this is the best cue ball out there. The measles one is double the cost.
Cheers
Brent
DryFlyTrout
Well-known member
I seem to recall in the Dynasphere thread someone posted info from Dynasphere saying something like they made thousands of each ball at a time. Afterword they would weigh them all, then match sets as closely as possible. That way there would be less variance from set to set. I forget what the tolerances they stated were, but if someone cares enough to find the thread and search it's there.
I can't imagine a new, genuine red circle weighing that low. Aramith's quality control is way better than that. By the way, there are a lot of knock-off red circles out there. If it comes in an official looking box, it's a fake. If it comes in a plastic case, it's a fake. Beware of fakes out there, or not so new. They all weigh 168 grams new. May be a bit hard to see, but here it is, both brand new.
All the best,
WW
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phreaticus
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Yeah, I have a ton of CB’s and my scale shows them all at 168g. Most variance I’ve seen is .2g. Its always been a total myth that red circle CB has more/easier action due to weight. Based on my limited experience, @WildWing’s posts # 35 & #39 are correct. The material/finish is the real difference on the RC’s.