Are Junior players being set up for a tough life?

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Fiction writers are very imaginative and quite often get it right.
Writers may conceive ideas from imagination plus observation but that's where they stop once they put it on paper. Someone else then takes that imagination and observation, adds innovation and creates a reality.
 
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Your observation is what I think the OP does not take into account.

I don't care if robots play pool. I also think a lot of people will probably agree with me. I care how humans play pool or run marathons. When it comes to human competition in sports, it's not interesting to me if we design a robot to do the sport better.

The original questions was about whether young people are set up for a difficult life, because the terrible adults in their life don't prevent them from attempting to become professional pool players.

My point is this: all jobs...and I mean all jobs, but especially jobs that have previously been insulated from technological advances like entry-level white collar work--the kind young people do--will be disrupted in a negative way sooner rather than later. On top of this challenge, you have to consider the cost of obtaining the education to make people "qualified" for entry-level white collar work is extremely expensive, and it requires most people to take out loans that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. Still further, old people are not retiring, so they are remaining in jobs to prevent middle-aged workers from advancing, and when older people do retire, they are "retiring" to lower-level jobs and working part-time sometimes--maybe the kind of jobs young people would start out with. Would an employer rather have a part-time senior employee with a career of experience or a full-time young person that has no experience?

When you consider the costs of a four-year degree, you have to consider that the market is almost demanding a graduate degree these days for white-collar work...unless your bachelors is in a field where they will allow you to pursue that during your career. Even then, many people still have to get an MBA or some kind of Masters. The real final cost of the education is the cost in money + the cost in time spent in obtaining the degree before any "real" career and earning begins. Should we encourage young people to engage in 5-7 years of expensive education for the chance to compete in a market place that prefers A.I. or older experienced workers? To me, it is a tough sell.

I agree with the sentiment that becoming a world-class pro pool player is hard. The problem is that breaking into lucrative white-collar work is also hard, and it's getting harder by the day and the prospects for this work in the future gets bleaker by the day. (in part, because of A.I.).

I agree that in the near future the trades offer an attractive answer to the problem I mentioned above. However, I live near a well-known and highly reputable trade school. Its student body gets bigger every year and not by a small amount. My little town is busting at the seems with future diesel mechanics, which is fine...for now. How many diesel mechanics do we need? I realize there is a shortage, but year after year of rising class size will chip away at this.

In the near term, most young pool players should probably be diesel mechanics or join the military (of course they might die in the military) as opposed to attempting a career on the WNT. However, we don't know the individual complexities that adorn the decisions of any particular young person. Given the changing dynamics in this area, I think it's good to acknowledge that and let people make their own choices without shouting criticism from the boomer peanut gallery.

I also think the path to being world class at any discipline is extremely hard, but information on how to get there is cheaper and easier to obtain than it has ever been.

If there is a silver lining here, maybe it's that in the future more people will play great pool and more people will enjoy watching great pool, because A.I. is doing our work...right before it kills us.

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How bad are schools that after 12 years people are not prepared to enter the workforce
 
Fiction writers are very imaginative and quite often get it right.
Writers may conceive ideas from imagination plus observation but that's where they stop once they put it on paper. Someone else then takes that imagination and observation, adds innovation and creates a reality.
This sentence in particular has all the hallmarks of AI-generated language.

Ah, yes, here comes the AI police. Everyone’s favorite!
 
I believe that humans will evolve out of existence. In other words, we currently are not necessarily the best version of ourselves. A neanderthal would probably tear a current man apart.

We have become smarter but weaker. Our innovations makes us less relevant or necessary and It is happening exponentially. There's always talk about when humans are gone what will be the next dominant species. It may not be a species at all but a creation. We are almost by definition nothing but machines ourselves.

"Whether humans are machines is a philosophical and biological debate, not a simple fact. While humans can be viewed as complex biological "machines" with mechanisms like cause-and-effect processes and chemical reactions in the brain, they differ from machines by having consciousness, emotions, and free will."

The future of the world will be self replacating machines. In literature the monster often destroys the Creator. When they, the machines, decide humans are a little more than a disease on the planet, they will get rid of us.
I wish I could sum up my thoughts in this manner. Easily one of the best replies I've ever seen on this site. Strongly Agree.
 
This sentence in particular has all the hallmarks of AI-generated language.

Ah, yes, here comes the AI police. Everyone’s favorite!
No, it's how I speak and write. My wife complains sometimes i sound like I am giving a lecture.

I have a problem with AI myself in that you can't trust what it tells you. Just the other night I wanted to know the name of a movie I was watching. I googled the three actors and asked what movie they were in together.

While it answered correctly it added one of the actors never appeared in the picture. I asked the question differently and got a different answer. It seems the actor was never in the picture on screen at the same time with the other two actors. Somehow AI interpreted that as not being in the picture.
AI should be called instead "EG" for educated Guess.
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... so this is what it's like to be part of an NPR thread.

The theme to which many subscribe seems to be "If you are young and show any aptitude for it, why not try pool as a career. As there will not be much else for human beings to do soon enough, why develop skills in a trade or career?"

Wow, what an uplifting message to send to our youth!
 
... so this is what it's like to be part of an NPR thread.

The theme to which many subscribe seems to be "If you are young and show any aptitude for it, why not try pool as a career. As there will not be much else for human beings to do soon enough, why develop skills in a trade or career?"

Wow, what an uplifting message to send to our youth!
While we're talking about playing pool, there's probably dozens of professions that a young person may want to go into that may be rewarding, at least to them.

Right off the top of my head I would say being a professional musician, actor, artist, sculptor, furniture builder and any number of professions that somebody would say you shouldn't do that because you can't get rich at it.

Pool as I mentioned in another post is actually an industry. You can be a player but there's also a number of ways you can be involved in it and possibly make a living along with and a side to being a player.

The one unfortunate thing though, and I have to say this just from my own experience with them. Pool players tend to not be the most honest people you've ever encountered. I tried going into business several times with pool players not for my benefit I don't need the money but to help them out. In each case I ended up getting screwed.
One particular player had a sideline of buying and selling used furniture and antiques and going to the flea market. I helped out by giving him a little bit of a line of credit with me so that if he found something good he could afford to buy it maybe sell it for pretty good profit. I asked for little more than my original money back, not even a percent of the profits.
This deal lasted, honest to God, one week and he lost the seed money at the dog track.
I think this commonly known nature of pool players is why people on here discourage young people from getting too deeply involved in, especially when it comes to the gambling aspect.
 
Yeah, no, none of that is going to happen any time soon. AI replacing all jobs, outside of maybe some low level developer jobs, is a myth. No one is making a profit using AI or doing anything any better with AI. Actually it isn't a myth, it is fraud. It is tech companies covering up their losses or making their investors happy by laying off people. Not only that, we simply don't have the electrical grid and other infrastructure to do what these morons are claiming. There is still plenty of white collar work to be done, once this pyrafraud bubble bursts.
You are sorely mistaken and I think you will be surprised very soon. I work for a small sophisticated fund and we are delegating to Ai left and right. One of the main features our head developer is working on is creating Ai agent teams that are field experts. You can feed Ai research papers and get a field expert in seconds. They analyze strategies and data in deep and meaningful ways, they construct plans for tax and legal implications, they backtest hundreds of thousands of variable parameters and make hotspot matrices that humans were previously incapable of, and they do every ounce of grunt work you could imagine on top of that. I used to be of the same mind as you and I agree Ai is not as sophisticated as people think, but I’m seeing first hand how powerful it is as a tool. We’re are currently being evaluated to be bought by a large financial institution, and the main draw is how small we have been able to remain trading the amount of capital with the variety of strategies we use, and that is explicitly because Ai has allowed us to do so. This financial institution has also said they want to model future departments after us. So yes it is coming. And to your point about driving, we’re already surrounded by driverless Ubers here in LA (Waymo’s).
 
The one unfortunate thing though, and I have to say this just from my own experience with them. Pool players tend to not be the most honest people you've ever encountered. I tried going into business several times with pool players not for my benefit I don't need the money but to help them out. In each case I ended up getting screwed.
One particular player had a sideline of buying and selling used furniture and antiques and going to the flea market. I helped out by giving him a little bit of a line of credit with me so that if he found something good he could afford to buy it maybe sell it for pretty good profit. I asked for little more than my original money back, not even a percent of the profits.
This deal lasted, honest to God, one week and he lost the seed money at the dog track.
I think this commonly known nature of pool players is why people on here discourage young people from getting too deeply involved in, especially when it comes to the gambling aspect.
A tale as old as time.

Unfortunately nearly every attempt to help these folks ends this way. I feel like they coach each other in all the ways to come up short of success with these similar opportunities or perhaps there’s a handbook?
 
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