Are most Philippine cues made with real inlays, or do some use decals?

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Are most Philippine cues made with real inlays, or do some use decals?

Is it easy to tell the difference?

Can anyone most any pictures of a Philippine made cue that was made using decals, and not real inlays?

I always wondered how these Philippine cue makers were able to make such fancy looking cues for so cheap.

I mean if they are using real inlays, then it must have taken them a very long time for all of the fancy inlays work (even thought it may not be perfect inlay work, like a lot of american cue makers cues).

If there are decal cues from the Philippines, then I am very curious to know how I would be able to tell the difference from just pictures of the cue.

Thanks.
 
They mostly use real inlays from my experience with them. The work from some of the cue makers there is very well done. I play with one myself and it is one of the best hitting cues I have ever had.
 
There are no decal cues made in Philippines. Those are China cues. Most are inlays and handmade. No cncs. You just have to choose carefully who among the cuemakers you buy from. Labor is cheaper here so we can sell it cheaper.

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justinb386 said:
Are most Philippine cues made with real inlays, or do some use decals?

Is it easy to tell the difference?

Can anyone most any pictures of a Philippine made cue that was made using decals, and not real inlays?

I always wondered how these Philippine cue makers were able to make such fancy looking cues for so cheap.

I mean if they are using real inlays, then it must have taken them a very long time for all of the fancy inlays work (even thought it may not be perfect inlay work, like a lot of american cue makers cues).

If there are decal cues from the Philippines, then I am very curious to know how I would be able to tell the difference from just pictures of the cue.

Thanks.
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Cues are made different in every country.............................one person makes his cues with the best woods and inlays, next cue maker uses a magic markers and stickers.

I would be careful that the inlays are not ivory because your cue may never get thru customs.
Biggest problem with buying any cue from a tropical country is the wood moving..........
And that also goes for cues from the states going to another country and different climates.
As said wood moves and even the best cuemakers cannot stop it.
I suggest that if you do buy any cue from PI that it does not have mental rings or ivory.

I do not know that many cue makers in PI but if I was to contact any of them I think it would be AL from Black Pearl cues.
Some of the cues I have seen that Al has made were really very nice looking cues.

I would also make sure you cover your transaction by using a credit card backed pay pal transaction. Just incase the cue comes in warped.............
 
justinb386 said:
Thanks. Can you tell me if the cue in the pictures below appears to have been made in the Philippines, and do you know who may have made it? Thanks.
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quite hard to tell who made it unless there's a signature. :smile:
 
the seller states it a decal cue..it's a McWorter copy, that seems to a specialty of some the Phillipino cue makers. I don't think it matters much who made it. It's a decal copy with a warped shaft
 
justinb386 said:
Are most Philippine cues made with real inlays, or do some use decals?

Is it easy to tell the difference?

Can anyone most any pictures of a Philippine made cue that was made using decals, and not real inlays?

I always wondered how these Philippine cue makers were able to make such fancy looking cues for so cheap.

I mean if they are using real inlays, then it must have taken them a very long time for all of the fancy inlays work (even thought it may not be perfect inlay work, like a lot of american cue makers cues).

If there are decal cues from the Philippines, then I am very curious to know how I would be able to tell the difference from just pictures of the cue.

Thanks.
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They are cheap due to the exchange rate and cost of living there. Plus some of the builders may not take as much time to do the work which leads to a cheaper cost.

US has a per capita earning of $51,000, Philippines are at $2,800. So the labor rates when you bring things over to the US are that much less. A cue maker in the US that charges say $10 an hour (for easy math) and takes 20 hours to make a cue is at $200, a cue maker in the Philippines is at under $1 an hour for $20.
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
Cues are made different in every country.............................one person makes his cues with the best woods and inlays, next cue maker uses a magic markers and stickers.

I would be careful that the inlays are not ivory because your cue may never get thru customs.
Biggest problem with buying any cue from a tropical country is the wood moving..........
And that also goes for cues from the states going to another country and different climates.
As said wood moves and even the best cuemakers cannot stop it.
I suggest that if you do buy any cue from PI that it does not have mental rings or ivory.

I do not know that many cue makers in PI but if I was to contact any of them I think it would be AL from Black Pearl cues.
Some of the cues I have seen that Al has made were really very nice looking cues.

I would also make sure you cover your transaction by using a credit card backed pay pal transaction. Just incase the cue comes in warped.............
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I agree and that applies to cues made in the USA also. There is a big difference between the humidity levels in different parts of this country and some cuemakers are more careful about how they age and seal their wood than others.
 
there are great cuemakers in the philippines. i know one that i can highly recommend. does an awesome job for a great price and it hits great as well. of course their is also crap available but if you know where to buy you can get a way better deal than what you get from any other US cuemaker.
 
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Why do ALL the cues from the phillipines or asia WORP,like buts ,shafts, and the wood around the ferrules always is smaller,like a lip. Rich aka the skunk.
 
know it all said:
Why do ALL the cues from the phillipines or asia WORP,like buts ,shafts, and the wood around the ferrules always is smaller,like a lip. Rich aka the skunk.
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from my own personal experience of having lived in the Philippines and owned cues made by 3 different cuemakers, I can gladly say I have had no problems of warping, poor finishing of shafts/ferrules, etc, they have all been solid, consident and of great quality workmanship, (2 of which I still own and am glad to own).

Granted not all cuemakers in the Philippines are as good at what they do as other cuemakers, but like anyone with common sense would look around on the internet, etc, and seek out information on which cuemakers in the Philippines has got a good rep for their workmanship, and has got the cue sales, proof of their work and the customer feedback to back it up.

So far, the best cuemaker in the Philippines right now is Joel Dadivas of JD Custom Cue, Makatti, he has produced alot of great cues and is becoming more and more popular with players and cue collectors alike.

I have attatched a pic of my custom 8 pointer butterfly made by Joel Dadivas and it really does hit every bit as smooth and solid as you could want in a cue.
 

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I have to agree with TheWizard. Joel Davidas is a stand-up guy who does exceptional work. No decals. Really.


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they just dont have the tools or experience to cure the wood properly, ive seen a couple, the most recent a JD, with rolls on both ends. im sure theres one or two who are exceptional builders, but the stress the wood goes through on its long voyage to US effects the wood. just my experience.
 
I completely disagree with that view about the climate difference and shipping from the Philippines to the US because I live in the UK and the climate here is a damn sight cooler than what the climate is in the Philippines.

Anyone who has a cue made by anyone or any company and sotres it in a cue case that is left in the trunk of the car or where there are frequesntly large changes in temperature and/or humidity, then the cue will warp regardless of who made it or where the cue was made.

This is fairly common knowledge as to the nature of the materials used to make pool cues.
 
All of them that I have seen have real inlays. The quality goes from pretty bad to pretty good. There are some great cuemakers over there that take their time and do quality work. But there are the opposite also. So if you want a cue from there I would suggest going with a cuemaker that has a good reputation and not buy the bargain basement type of cues that are turned out of the lower quailty shops.
 
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