Are Players Responsible For......

[Tommy-D]

> I saw something almost identical one time in Jonesboro,Ark. The guy that had been winning this same monthly tournament practically at will was known as kind of a nit,the kind that never bought 1/2 himself,despite having a pocket full of money. He had been playing really well all day,and ran into a local a ball or 2 under him that just happened to be in dead stroke,and lost in the winner's bracket final. He tried to forfeit out right then,and collect his 300 or so for the tournament,and stick his calcutta buyer,who paid 220 for the player,with a 120 dollar loss,getting 100 back for guaranteed 3rd,but no chance for any more. Word was passed to the player that it might be hard to find 4 Michelin tires to fit a Porsche in Jonesboro at 6 in the afternoon on a Saturday,and he eventually played and won 2 sets in the final,then had the gall to ask the calcutta buyer for a 100 dollar jelly roll. I believe he was eventually asked not to come back. He makes cues now. Tommy D.

 

[ironman]

The calcutta is nothing more than gambling. You gambled on the wrong guy, not his fault.

I will agree that it is an act of gambling and that it does involve risks.

What happened here with ML is his fault and his fault only. He quit. He gave up. He discounted everyone around or involved and did so quite selfishly.

 

[Jimmy M.]

While I do see both sides of the story, my ultimate feeling on the matter is that the player has no obligation to anyone other than himself - or his stakehorse if he were put in the tournament. Now, if you staked a player and he forfeited, sure, find something large and heavy to hit him with. If I show up and pay my entry fee, I don't owe anyone anything ... and no one owes me anything.

If you're a professional player, playing in a professional tournament, then I do think there is an obligation to the fans who have paid to come and see you play.

 

[vagabond]

Here is how we solved this problem in Alaska. First of all, the player MUST be in the room to be involved in the calcutta. (Remember the calcutta is only a "side pot" and only those involved can receive the money.)
Just my thoughts.

Mark Griffin

Hi,
In the scenario you described it definitely appears that the player entered into a verbal contract and as a result he has the the DUTY to honor that verbal contract but that Duty is one of MORAL rather than LEGAL in nature.
I rpeat what I mentioned in my earlier post-It is like buying and selling the cattle.No guaranty and the Bull may die any time.
Any way that is a very practical way of solving the problem.

 

[poolbiz420]

Seeing All Points...

I see everybody's points on here, i understand it's a gamble when you purchase a player. It's still pretty crappy to do, even if Marty would have played his second match and dumped i think that is still better than just walking out. ML seemed to be a pretty stand up guy, i don't know him personally but have seen him at many of tournaments in my area. Like i stated in the first post i just wanted to rant about this situation, it's done and over with and things move on. Oh just a side note the TD did tell me that he is banned from future Viking Tour Stops until he pays me at least half back. Which I'm not even looking to get paid back it's just the fact that it's wrong to do!

Biz