Are the new Tariffs on Goods from China going to affect prices on Pool cues?

ShootingArts said:
If a cue is made in the USA the added cost of foreign components and shop supplies won't be fifty dollars. The cost of pool cues is mostly time and artistry.

American manufacturers may increase prices just based on market pricing. Debatable if it is fair or not, but a builder that is charging 150% of what a chinese cue costs may well keep on charging 150% of what a chinese cue costs. Makes sense in a way, the price is one indication of quality. Some always think a higher price means higher quality.

A local story: My storage company built a new multimillion dollar building next to my storage unit about a year ago. Twice they have increased the cost of my rent due to the increased cost of "goods". First damned time I have heard of a new building being called goods. Do they really think us renters are stupid? Fixing to vote with my wallet and my feet! Not that they will care but once they don't have any leverage I will tell them that it wasn't the cost increases as much as their bullshit rationale that caused me to leave. American cue builders may claim cost increases too, but real cost increases will be extremely minor.

Hu
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Agree, but I'd have to add another qualification. Quality of the wood. A nameless country can put out a lot of cues by using inferior wood. Wood not harvested in the right place, not harvested in the right time period, etc. In other words, it might look ok, but it's green. Then the cue can be made, and it warps seriously after only a year or so.

I won't mention the cue maker, but his shafts cost a grand each because they are only harvested in a section of Michigan and Canada, and only in the month of February, and only with a certain diameter of the tree. The knock off stuff? They'll take any wood that looks like wood.
 
Never owned a Cue from China, so I am not worried, about the Cost of ChiCom Qz.'s.

Have a Few Cue they are all Ball Runner, Monsters, when I am in the GROVE.
 
Jimmy_Betmore said:
Good to know. But I'd be shocked if they don't use some kind of consumable (finish, tooling, etc) that either comes from China or are made with components from China. The unfortunate reality is that it's damn near impossible to buy everything American made. So if these tariffs go through it's going to touch every corner of our economy.
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So stop relying on the communist slave owners and build and buy AMERICAN GOODS! even if it takes a while to make the adjustments it would behoove us to stop using those A hole countries for things we want much less need.
 
To answer the OP question, the base rate for billiard cues falls under Chapter 95 of the harmonized codes, which afterwards is added current Trump nonsense…
 

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CocoboloCowboy said:
Well Amazon sells a lot of stuff made in China, maybe people will stop buying what they really don't need from Amazon.
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The Humidifier that I purchased from Amazon, was probably made in China. If there are American made Humidifiers, then I assume they are a lot more expensive then options from China. Not everyone can afford to buy American made everything.
 
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billiards_watch said:
Great to hear. There was another thread that made the impression Revo was something rebranded.

You see people there are still great stuff here. Look how excited she is and the emphasis on Made in USA. The world wants more products made from us so the idea we can't make them is crazy.

Southwest is more sought after overseas than it is here.

Show a bit love to our very own.
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Problem is that most US Made products are far more expensive then American Made products.
 
vintagecollectibles831 said:
So, if I buy a cue for a $100 from China, then the Tarif Tax on that cue would be $145? That is nuts.
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Yes, you have to pay $145 to the US government as a penalty tax for buying a Chinese good valued at $100. The supplier can just lie and devalue the shipped product to $30 or something similar, which I am sure is being done a lot to help customers.

Otherwise, the base is free trade, as shown here: https://dataweb.usitc.gov/tariff/database/details/95042080/2025
 
WildWing said:
Agree, but I'd have to add another qualification. Quality of the wood. A nameless country can put out a lot of cues by using inferior wood. Wood not harvested in the right place, not harvested in the right time period, etc. In other words, it might look ok, but it's green. Then the cue can be made, and it warps seriously after only a year or so.

I won't mention the cue maker, but his shafts cost a grand each because they are only harvested in a section of Michigan and Canada, and only in the month of February, and only with a certain diameter of the tree. The knock off stuff? They'll take any wood that looks like wood.
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My cull rate by the time decent rock maple shafts got to the last rough taper was seventy percent or a bit over. My eight dollar blanks became twenty-four dollar blanks. These were still graded A,B, or C. C's were for my own use or customer shafts for fairly cheap cues of theirs. These were excellent playing shafts, pinged well, but the ring count might be low. I had excellent shafts with ring counts as low as eight but not what the customer wanted. B's were for most replacements and lower end new cues, under a thousand. The A's were less than ten percent, closer to five percent, and anyone that got one of those was going to pay for it! One reason my cue shop died is Hurricane Ida got my eight year old river of wood including two gross of fairly advanced shaft blanks. Rock maple makes damned good plant stakes!

As you know, people might have thought they were buying top grade stuff for cheap prices before tariffs but that was extremely rare. A lot more common to buy junk at gold prices than to buy gold at junk prices!

Hu
 
billiards_watch said:
I rest my case.
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Made in Belgium, China, Taiwan, United States, Canada, Mexico, Brazil and where ever else lithium is mined, metals are formed, semiconductor and electronic components are fabricated, monomers are processed, etc. Pretty much everywhere. It was only designed in the United States, which is very typical.

I don’t know what your case is, and why it was tired enough to need a rest.
 
tariffs do raise the price of what you buy generally. it is the importer that pays the tariff. so he has to decide to pass it on back to the chinese company or pass it forward. and it goes on from there. each step of the way has the power to eat some of that cost or pass it on. if they all pass it on the consumer pays it all. but will slow down their buying of that good. and the whole product line will suffer.

and the tariff price is on the imported price not the consumers retail price you you do not pay that in full.

but ultimately the manufacturer will suffer the most as his goods will stop or slow down even being imported and people will find a substitute for that product.

but in the end the country with the tariff on it will negotiate things as their trade with us will slow down and their companies will be most affected.

and all of the money collected from a tariff goes to the united states treasury to help with our debt problems.
how they spend that is another matter of course.
 
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so here is how it works. say nike imports a shoe from china. in general they pay about 20 to 25 dollars for that shoe. the tariff is on that cost.

and nike along the way gets to sell those shoes for say 150 dollars. so there is a lot of markup that can be absorbed along the way without even raising the price to you.

so nike may have to pay 40 dollars more for that shoe if the full tariff goes into effect. and nike then will have to sell that shoe at the retail store for 190 dollars if it wants to make the same profit of each shoe.. but consumers wont pay that so nike may eat that loss of profit to keep selling as many shoes. or raise the price and sell less of them.
 
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