Arguing with experts

[Cue Stick]

As gross as it is. The related topic has the biggest convention in the world i believe. I don't think people know about it because its all business related. It is combined wastewater/freshwater.
Actually fun conventions. Suprising how many companies i wouldnt expect to be there. Like Mitsubishi, i think they make large scale generators.

I do know that Mitsubishi makes large industrial boilers for steam production.

 

[Cue Stick]

Totally agree with this. I just tried to find the episode you reminded me of, but can't. There was an episode of real time with bill maher a few years back discussing something similar.
At the time i was trying to figure out how friends i had known for 25 years had lost thier minds. The episode talks about people going down the rabbit hole. Believing falsehoods and taking them as fact, all it takes is one. then they are viewing everything else through that belief, and they continue to fall into the hole.
It's how people end up on facebook ranting about pizzagate and jfk jr.
Unfortunately algorithims on social media do the cherry picking for them and suggest stuff for them to read or watch. continuing the spiral down.

You're right, all it takes is one. A friend I've had for far more than 25 years was talking about Mosconi's running 526 balls in straight pool. He said "Man, if you divide that by 15, that's a lot of racks!". When I said you would have to divide by 14 to find out how many racks he ran, my friend came up with a very clear and scientific explanation to help me understand why I was wrong. Since I still didn't seem to understand the error of my ways, another guy jumped in and tried to explain it to me. His explanation involved a sixteenth ball (his words), but he couldn't tell me what the sixteenth ball was numbered, or what color it was, or whether it was a stripe or a solid. And all this from guys who hadn't played nearly as much straight pool as I had. Like you said, I thought they were losing their minds. I finally dropped the whole thing, since it was too much like what the Apostle Paul referred to as a pointless philosophical argument. At that point I suspect that they were proud that they had explained it so well that I finally understood

 

[Cue Stick]

Yeah... Doctors.... Not a fan.

My father got dizzy and fell a few years ago, definitely not an expected issue, never had signs of it in the past and only one incident since.

My brother called me when he was in the ER. I asked what he'd had for dinner. The doctor never asked. Apparently he'd had beets and red wine with his meal. Dad doesn't get drunk, so it was two glasses at most. I told my brother to ask the doctor about the blood pressure effects of beets and red wine because of read that they both reduce BP and Dad is on meds. The doctor rolled his eyes, but to his credit he did some research and agreed that they were likely contributing factors.

The only other incident Dad has had again involved red wine. Two was enough for him

That is basically my experience with doctors. They don't seem to dig. Same as when I was having problems when I was 19 and it took a lab tech screaming at the doctors before they did any further investigating and found holes in my small intestine.

So... Keep in mind this is a forum with no verification of expertise. There is a lot of good info, but it should be mostly used for amusement. There are jerks (I'm guilty, probably too often), there are trolls, and there are simple misunderstandings.

I always tell people that I express my opinions as if they were facts, but I'm always acutely aware that they are only opinions. I'm not sure that all of these pundits share that kind of awareness.

 

[ShootingArts]

We tend to absorb the things we read that follow our own perception and bias. Cherry picking. Anything else just doesn't register. Heuristics. That's why so many people talk like sound bites. You can't learn new things if you don't know how to listen.
People may think I'm an idiot, but be damned if I'm gonna open my mouth and remove all doubt!!

Sometimes we show our knowledge by talking, sometimes by knowing when to shut up!

Giving things that support our beliefs more weight than things that don't is an issue all the way to the thinkers influencing the world. There was a string of weather stations documenting global warming. These were remote unmanned stations. Best I recall there were between a dozen and thirty. One broke, the rest documented the mini cooling cycle the world was going through. Can't have that, the funding was for finding the opposite results.

All of the working stations showed the consistent patterns as would be expected. The broken station was shown as being wildly inconsistent with every other station, the only way to show global warming in the midst of a cooling trend.

Frustrated me to no end to have my boss, the company president with a PhD in Chemical Engineering, make me dedicate all resources for a week, money and time on a hard money project, to demonstrate that a seemingly simple path wouldn't work. It was as simple as A+B+C! The problem was just like many a discussion on here, the real variables were A+B+C plus over a dozen minor variables.

Those tiny parasite variables over time defeated the main elements. At least a dozen companies had tried this same path. I presented documentation from three companies that had went down the same path and found that the parasite elements prevented the idea from working. I had researched that path months before when we were just past the brainstorming stage. Didn't matter, the company president wanted to see for himself!

Incidentally, I loved that job! I could be staring out the window for hours without the wheels complaining. No way to tell if I was working my ass off or daydreaming, well except Friday after lunch. Unless something was truly urgent that four hours was dedicated to fishing strategy for the weekend. Priorities you know!

Hu

 

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[Black-Balled]

This cat knows a TON and has steered me down the right path when researching Asian made cues. His knowledge of both the history and the tech. details are awesome.

He's a good cornerman, agreed.

 

[JB Cases]

I have read a decent amount of threads since i have joined these forums. And I find it funny as hell seeing people argue with cue builders when they do not know what they are talking about. Maybe it is just a matter of the way you word things, or maybe people are that full of themselves. I think it would be easier and more conducive to ask questions, listen and have a discussion. Certainly not as entertaining for me. lol. But I am sure it is not as much fun for the cue builders.

Our company does consulting and teaches classes worldwide as well as selling products to support our consulting.
One of the hardest lessens i had to learn was the phrase " i do not know, but i will find out" And be honest with the customer.
Oh, and i am not a pool cue expert either. Our business is wastewater.
I just felt like sharing. It is entertaining. and that is what we are here for right?
Dan

There have been dozens of times that individuals have tried to tell me how my cases are built.

It is frustrating and disheartening. Especially when not a single one of them would take a bet against their claims.