Artistic shots billiards.. this time violating the laws of physics
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Look at the 2nd shot in full screen. The CB is obviously spinning and wobbling in place before the hit. And look at the white extension cord plugged into the wall going under the table. I would guess he is using a dremel tool or hand drill to spin up the ball.
Regards,
Dave
You're missing something very, very important in the first shot. If the cue ball starts with right side spin (which is normal for a curve to the right) and then hits the long rail a glancing blow in a direction that promotes more right side spin, how does the ball miraculously have left side spin when when it hits the second cushion? What has applied clockwise torque to the ball?
Is the ball actually spinning BEFORE he strikes it with the cue?
Dang, didn't see this thread in time to win my Super Shot Gold Medal. :frown:
Ok...
I let you brainstorm about this shots.
The secret:
A shot a massé on a spinning cueball. I pre-spin the ball first and then massé the, in the first example, leftspinning ball.
It curves to the right but still has left over.
By the way all the shots has spin before I take the shot.
Sorry for letting you wait for the solution. ☺
I used a fourth ball to shoot the cueball in with spin and then take the ball away.... no drill or something. The thing in the wall is my phone-charger haha
I let you brainstorm about this shots.
The secret:
A shot a massé on a spinning cueball. I pre-spin the ball first and then massé the, in the first example, leftspinning ball.
It curves to the right but still has left over.
By the way all the shots has spin before I take the shot.
Sorry for letting you wait for the solution. ☺
I used a fourth ball to shoot the cueball in with spin and then take the ball away.... no drill or something. The thing in the wall is my phone-charger haha
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I can't give you any greenies with this device...will do so at home on my ThinnkPad.
I enjoyed this thread all to hell....and showed it to lots of people at two pool halls.
...and , as usual, I'm impressed with Dr Dave and Bob Jewett....
....when you got a pool problem....who you gonna call?
Yes I am impressed too.
It was a lot of work doing the shots. Two problems, the extreme sidespin and then the correct massé.
It had to be perfect.
It is not so easy to hit a spinning ball without miscuing. There is a standard carom trick shot that can be done as a pool trick shot that looks something like the following, both with flat sticks:
![CropperCapture[24].png](https://forums.azbilliards.com/data/attachments/304/304891-7a28faa234b00cae11d5433453d9f48f.jpg?hash=eij6ojSwDK "CropperCapture[24].png")
This is shown in Joe Hood's book "Trick and Fancy Pool Shots Exposed" from 1908 (see page 75) but I could swear I've seen a straight rail version for a carom table in some book.
I think that posting a video of you getting the ball to spin in the first place before executing the masse would be pretty neat to see as well. That can't be super easy to get that spin going on a stationary ball either!
Very creative shot. Thanks for making that happen and sharing.
Getting a ball to spin in place is a pretty standard artistic shot. Stop shot with extreme side will do it. Mike Massey can do it with his fingers and get a truly amazing amount of spin on the ball. The spin-in-place technique is required for this shot http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5508262&postcount=3 which is easier as a carom shot. Lots of right side is required.
Here's a good demo of Mike's finger strength put to impressive use:
Mike Massey Finger Pool
Enjoy,
Dave
I have a video called the one minute spinning cueball.
That's how I made the cue ball spin and having enough time to masse it.