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In the past week I purchased an early 1980's Gus cue that was refinished by Barry in or about October 2006. The cue is MINT, has 20 MOP inlays, a stainless steel piloted joint, 4 ebony points with 4 veneers each, 4 windows in the ebony butt sleeve with rare mitered box veneers (4), and two of the most beautiful rings in the butt sleeve and on either side of the joint that you will ever see. When Barry refinished the cue last year, he made a matching joint protector for the butt of the cue. The shafts are original and roll straight together and apart. In fact, for shafts that are approximately 25 years old, they roll near perfect.

Yesterday I took delivery of a 2005 Barry cue that has never been chalked and is MINT. The cue has 36 Ivory inlays, a piloted Ivory joint and an Ivory butt cap with "Szamboti" stamped therein. The cue also has a black lizard wrap and Ivory ferrules with Moori Medium tips.

I'm not posting photos of the cues in this thread because the cue market appears to be very weak right now and don't want to over-expose the cues in such a market, but will PM photos to any serious buyers. The Gus is $18,000.00 and the Barry is $10,500.00 delivered. Please PM me about these cues only if you have the cash to purchase one or both of the cues and are seriously looking to purchase Szamboti treasures.
 
Quality Cues said:
I'm not posting photos of the cues in this thread because the cue market appears to be very weak right now and don't want to over-expose the cues in such a market, but will PM photos to any serious buyers.
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I just don't understand this sales technique... :confused:
 
No, it's not the same cue that Casey is selling. He has never owned this cue. I just e-mailed photos to you Ken.
 
Mr Hoppe said:
I just don't understand this sales technique... :confused:
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Cuaba said:
Niether do serious buyers.
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it's obvious to me that neither of you are "serious buyers" and rude for infiltrating a persons for sale thread with nothing but negative comments. the only suggestion i can make is if you're not interested move on and let the person do "their" thing.

good luck with the sale Mike they will sure find the "appropriate" home.....
 
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i don't understand their dissapointment at the thread either. the gentleman gave a descripton and pics and a price. what's the problem? if it is the price, like the man said, move on.

skip coburger
 
Yup

Cues like that don't need to be seen by all. Only serious buyers. I would do exactly the same unless I were teasing a friend or two! High end collectables can loose alot of desire when shown to the world in alot of collectors minds. They will just stay away.
Very smart Mike.
Pics please- NickSerdula@cox.net!
Nick :)
 
nick serdula said:
Cues like that don't need to be seen by all. Only serious buyers. I would do exactly the same unless I were teasing a friend or two! High end collectables can loose alot of desire when shown to the world in alot of collectors minds. They will just stay away.
Very smart Mike.
Pics please- NickSerdula@cox.net!
Nick :)
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Totally agree Nick, and the others with same tone. Mike, thanks the photos.
Both cues are 'drop dead gorgeous', both cues, I mean, 'drop dead gorgeous'.
 
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skins said:
it's obvious to me that neither of you are "serious buyers" and rude for infiltrating a persons for sale thread with nothing but negative comments. the only suggestion i can make is if you're not interested move on and let the person do "their" thing.
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I was agreeing with Mr Hoppe more than I was trying to insult anyone. For all we know Mr Hoppe may be a potential buyer who was put off by this sales technique, as was I.

If you want to find serious Szam buyers, just read a few AZ threads. There are at least a dozen posters who talk about and show off high end Szams in their collections. P.M. them with pics.

Don't fish temptation in front of everybody on the forum. Its obvious that several posters didn't like it. Half the people that want to see pics probably don't have the money. Half the people that do have the money will be put off by the post.

There is a better way.
 
keepitreal said:
Totally agree Nick, and the others with same tone. Mike, thanks the photos.
Both cues are 'drop dead gorgeous', both cues, I mean, 'drop dead gorgeous'.
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Just saw pictures of both cues as well and I too find the cues just incredible.

Mike - thanks for the photos and hoping to do additional purchases with you in the future.

Myron
 
skins said:
it's obvious to me that neither of you are "serious buyers" and rude for infiltrating a persons for sale thread with nothing but negative comments. the only suggestion i can make is if you're not interested move on and let the person do "their" thing.

good luck with the sale Mike they will sure find the "appropriate" home.....
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Tim, Cuaba can be a very serious buyer .... FYI.
 
Cuaba said:
I was agreeing with Mr Hoppe more than I was trying to insult anyone. For all we know Mr Hoppe may be a potential buyer who was put off by this sales technique, as was I.

If you want to find serious Szam buyers, just read a few AZ threads. There are at least a dozen posters who talk about and show off high end Szams in their collections. P.M. them with pics.

Don't fish temptation in front of everybody on the forum. Its obvious that several posters didn't like it. Half the people that want to see pics probably don't have the money. Half the people that do have the money will be put off by the post.

There is a better way.
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(sorry Mike in advance.........)

you just don't get it and i'm probably wasting my "fingers" but, contrary to what i think you believe, there's no such thing as a "non" serious Szamboti buyer. anyone who knows about Szam's, that truly wants one and can afford one will jump through hoops at just about every offer to acquire the info regardless of it's advertising. the rest are just tire kickers and onlookers imo. like i said it's obvious you both weren't interested in the cues so leave it alone and let the seller have their space. it's obvious to me and others that the comments in the thread at least say who aren't the serious buyers.

skins - has owned many Szamboti's and is a serious buyer....
 
Jazz said:
Tim, Cuaba can be a very serious buyer .... FYI.
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no disrespect Jazz but imo NO serious high end buyer buyer would diminish the advertising wishes of a seller especially when the seller has good reason for doing it their way and the item(s) "deserve(s)" it. on the contrary they would applaud the effort to keep things more confidential and under the radar especially if the item is for investment.
 
skins said:
no disrespect Jazz but imo NO serious high end buyer buyer would diminish the advertising wishes of a seller especially when the seller has good reason for doing it their way and the item(s) "deserve(s)" it. on the contrary they would applaud the effort to keep things more confidential and under the radar especially if the item is for investment.
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Tim, no disrespect intended but close to 70% people on the poll you started disagree with you.

To some, buying a Szam is a collectible /investment. To some, it 's just another cue for their collection.

It's all matter of who's willing to do the leg work .. seller or the buyer and people are going to have different perspective on the matter. All I was trying to point out is that Cuaba is a damn serious buyer .. with a collection, connections and etc. His perspective on the matter is a difference of an opinion that should be respected - just like your opinion.

I don't wish to muddy up Mike's thread so I'm not going to comment in this thread any further and wish him good luck on this sale.
 
Mr Hoppe said:
I just don't understand this sales technique... :confused:
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You must not be a 10k plus cue buyer !
The way Mike listed his cues is the only way to keep the appeal to the buyers of such a cue !
Your lack of knowlage in these upper end collectables is understandable but the way you ask needs work !!
 
posting the pics is good for the whole market, preception creates value, having them only seen by serious buyers dosent do anything but stroke the egos of the rich snobs, when i get pics of mine i'll post them up for the world to see, i'm not a snob, it isnt bragging its called sharing, what i have dosent make me better person, hell i might be a bad guy, my assetts dont make me the man I am, i was the same guy when I was flat or pumped up. So when the time is right i'll share them, not being a show off or trying to make others jealous, i let anyone that can play hit balls with my of my cues except one or two cues i have, if you cant share what you have you shouldnt have it,

I let people drive all but 2 of my cars-they will have a memorie for a life time, i remember the first Ferrari I drove in 86, its nice to share and touch peoples lifes, so pictures of cues is sharing and creating the demand, i remember the first Sazm i played with Lucky has it now, its a 8pt. with a ton of ivory in it, i played an hour with it, i'll never forget that, i was sold then on Szams, now 21 years later i have a couple, if that guy didnt loan me the cue for an hour i never would have know what a Szam is, now its in a vault in Japan not doing Gus or Barry any favors its a waste of a cue, if i wire Lucky $200,000 for it it would be mine, i could make it happen and to just keep it out of the publics eye is a selfish thing, some cal me a show off i call myself a sharer, i share what i have but i'm not a trick or soft, niceness dosent mean softness.


more exposure they get the more demand there is thus the higher the prices go up in time, because the up commers making $$$ know what to buy, if they are in the rich people vaults getting dusty until they sell them to another rich guy to put in a different vault the market wouild get soft, look at art a $50,000,000 picasso is better displayed in a museem than in a house. People seeing the cues stirrs up emotion and that emotion creates the value, hiding things from the people who cant afford them dosent help the market, it just makes small D*** guys feel good to be "exculsive" well i got news for them $10,000 aint anything to brag about, in the pool world it is but charter a private jet and see how far 10 dime will take you, LOL man the big egos of the middle class disgust me, hell i'm broke compaired to where I want to be and I charter jets 2-3 times a year, like Gorden Gecko said in Wall Street "A real player or nothing at all 50 or 100 million" and that was 20 years ago, now thats money. i want to live in my own jet travelling the world, have a 100,000 sqft house and 10 condos all over the world, think big get big.

mike post the pics this is silly
 
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Jazz said:
Tim, no disrespect intended but close to 70% people on the poll you started disagree with you.
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Jazz, that poll was a farce imo. i wish i would have made it so you could see those who voted that way because i'd bet you could go through their previous posts and find that they were just jumping on the band wagon, not serious buyers of the items advertised or just plain woofin'. i would bet that most of 70% that voted they would "totally disregard" the sale, aren't "serious" buyers for the items they hold their "advertising disdain" for.
 
Fatboy said:
posting the pics is good for the whole market, preception creates value, having them only seen by serious buyers dosent do anything but stroke the egos of the rich snobs, when i get pics of mine i'll post them up for the world to see, i'm not a snob,
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with respect, being a "snob" has nothing to do with it. allot of collectors would rather be anonymous with certain transactions as would the sellers that's their right. you're one that "gets off" on sharing your wares and i think that's great as i'm the same way but on the flip side, my point is let those who want different and those wanting to sell the way the want do so and if you're interested make a move if not move on. it's as simple as that.
 
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