Autumn Cue - Finished
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very nice MR. Rick:wink:Thanks, inlays, design etc
I don´t know if you guys/girls see it but the prop is actually hexagon shaped, to make it more like a bolt to hold a prop for "real" - Rick´s idea and also Ricks idea to use the epoxy, I think that was a good choice because that small of inlay would take a h...l of a lot work to do and the effect of using epoxy makes the visible effect perfect imo. Can´t be better by using inlay.
I had a idea (no Rick I didn´t share that one because you probably would have tried it:smile:, so much work) to do a inlay that pop a bit above the surface to make it even more obvious that its a bolt that holds the prop.
Thanks and thanks to all of you that enjoy the looks of this cue, it already have a special place in my heart that´s for sure. I could say, "I can´t wait for it", - but then I can:smile:.
I don´t know if you guys/girls see it but the prop is actually hexagon shaped, to make it more like a bolt to hold a prop for "real" - Rick´s idea and also Ricks idea to use the epoxy, I think that was a good choice because that small of inlay would take a h...l of a lot work to do and the effect of using epoxy makes the visible effect perfect imo. Can´t be better by using inlay.
I had a idea (no Rick I didn´t share that one because you probably would have tried it:smile:, so much work) to do a inlay that pop a bit above the surface to make it even more obvious that its a bolt that holds the prop.
Thanks and thanks to all of you that enjoy the looks of this cue, it already have a special place in my heart that´s for sure. I could say, "I can´t wait for it", - but then I can:smile:.
Sweet cue! Wouldn't mind owning such a beauty.
This design can be used in "all colors" and I don´t mind if someone will like to use it. This will always be a 1/1 anyway and I and Rick have borrowed the colors, inlays etc from other things - nothing is new under the sky.
Would be fun to see this design be used in a lot of colors actually, I have some ideas if you want some help, - I would gladly help if I could, it´s fun:smile:.
I have already some new wood coming in Ricks way for another cue or cues, that is to begin another project since this has been so fun. Cues are meant to be played with imo though so it will be for sale - I might bring it to Sweden first tough so I get to see it before it leaves.
Thanks
Chrippa
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Rick,
Wow...they just keep getting more amazing!!! I just might have to give you a call one of these days!
Chrippa,
You lucky dog you!!!
Thanks mate:smile:. I feel kind of lucky, it came out looking like a dream imo:smile:.
Will be here next week and then it´s time for some serious shooting!
Chrippa
That is one sweet cue.........
Chris,
The Joint Protectors are on their way.
Rick
The Joint Protectors are on their way.
Rick
Chris,
The Joint Protectors are on their way.
Rick
Thanks Rick, Autumn is in Sweden now and if luck is with me it will be in my hands tomorrow:smile:, luck is usually with me:wink:
Chrippa
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What a beautiful cue, I am excited for the development of the Cajun, and for all of you seeing this cue I want to say Rick is great to work with and his work is first class.
My Baby is home!
Thanks Dale, the Cajun will be fun to follow:smile:.
Well what can I say, the pics doesn´t do it justice. It´s drop dead beautiful imo, "it´s me". I love the colors and the design me and Rick came up with.
More about it later though - have to rush, POOL TIME:smile:
here´s some pics, btw Rick has missed out on one thing, guess what. Hint, "no black" in this cue. The JP´s it´s on it´s way btw.
Rick - you are the man! Thanks for everything, you have been a "sport" all the way and truly a pleasure to work with. Will be more as you know. Rick and I are going to build more cues together, if someone want´s my help - let me know. I have some ideas up my sleeve:smile:.
I´m a real happy camper, I just love this!! More later on friends, The Autumn will play some now:thumbup::smile:
:wub: :angel2:
Thanks Dale, the Cajun will be fun to follow:smile:.
Well what can I say, the pics doesn´t do it justice. It´s drop dead beautiful imo, "it´s me". I love the colors and the design me and Rick came up with.
More about it later though - have to rush, POOL TIME:smile:
here´s some pics, btw Rick has missed out on one thing, guess what. Hint, "no black" in this cue
. The JP´s it´s on it´s way btw.Rick - you are the man! Thanks for everything, you have been a "sport" all the way and truly a pleasure to work with. Will be more as you know. Rick and I are going to build more cues together, if someone want´s my help - let me know. I have some ideas up my sleeve:smile:.
I´m a real happy camper, I just love this!! More later on friends, The Autumn will play some now:thumbup::smile:
:wub: :angel2:
Hi,
During my life I have been a technical person and have been involved in most every trade as a professional performing my work underwater for over 30 years. Every trade except machinist. Cue making has allowed me to add this skill set to my resume specific to cue making of coarse.
That being said, I must admit that I am very limited in the area of design and fashion sense. Yeah, my wife has to dress me when we go out. It's that bad. So working with Christian has been a epiphany for me because he invisioned his design and centralized it around a color scheme and broke some rules along the way because he stayed true to his vision.
I would have never built this beautifully designed cue on my own because I am a technocrat that did not see bleached white veneer ending the points into maple. That is the singular feature that makes this cue so different and appealing having the soft and warm feel he was looking to capture. Chris showed me in a big time way that he is very sensitive and has eye in this area.
We have just started down the road on a big cue project that will be our entry for Jammie's Cue of the year 2013. Chris just aquired the most off the wall museum grade turning blank I have seen and IMO will blow some minds and will be suited to his new design. He is working on that design at this time and I can't wait to get started.
Anyone who knows me understands that building cues is a passion with me and it is not about anything else as the prime directive.
Christian and I are both self proclaimed cue nerds and are having fun as we enjoy the journey as well as the destination.
To me, it don't get any better than that.
Rick
During my life I have been a technical person and have been involved in most every trade as a professional performing my work underwater for over 30 years. Every trade except machinist. Cue making has allowed me to add this skill set to my resume specific to cue making of coarse.
That being said, I must admit that I am very limited in the area of design and fashion sense. Yeah, my wife has to dress me when we go out. It's that bad. So working with Christian has been a epiphany for me because he invisioned his design and centralized it around a color scheme and broke some rules along the way because he stayed true to his vision.
I would have never built this beautifully designed cue on my own because I am a technocrat that did not see bleached white veneer ending the points into maple. That is the singular feature that makes this cue so different and appealing having the soft and warm feel he was looking to capture. Chris showed me in a big time way that he is very sensitive and has eye in this area.
We have just started down the road on a big cue project that will be our entry for Jammie's Cue of the year 2013. Chris just aquired the most off the wall museum grade turning blank I have seen and IMO will blow some minds and will be suited to his new design. He is working on that design at this time and I can't wait to get started.
Anyone who knows me understands that building cues is a passion with me and it is not about anything else as the prime directive.
Christian and I are both self proclaimed cue nerds and are having fun as we enjoy the journey as well as the destination.
To me, it don't get any better than that.
Rick
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First impression playing with the Autumn.
Thanks! Mean either
, I haven´t got the design in my head yet. The wood looks amazing however but I will wait until it gets to Rick and we can talk it over, better pics etc. Have numerous ideas in my head but the design starts when I get to see the wood more closely. Rick however want´s to be pushed to his limits so I will see what I can do about it. I think we will do a real nice MW also. Simple can be great.
A short review after some play yesterday:
First - I´m pretty well trained to test out cues and since this was going to be a player for me it has my specs, Rick´s own specs in his cues was already very close so it wasn´t a biggie, I just changed the tip to 12.75 and a 1/2 ferrule to make the deflection were I want it, use to.
So with that said I felt it was going to be a good player of course, my expectations was there. However I can set that aside when testing cues.
The cue did meet my expectations of a cue that fits me, I "found" it right away, it was very easy to judge the deflection, get used to the overall balance, weight, feeling of the shaft when stroking etc.
The cue plays very strong, very consistent, ld - but not "extreme" (don´t like that at all) - this is something I can write a lot of, but for now I can say - please folks, LD is not a quality thing, it can be just as bad as HD - think about swerve, throw, parallel aim - pivot aim etc, if you know what to look for you can use it good - go with the flow sort of imo.
Deflections is a fact, go with it, I like to use deflection, swerve when shooting shots and a solid shaft (I have tried several) with a shorter ferrule provides me with a great feedback (solid feel), a deflection that is very easy to adjust to - you can aim inside a part of the pocket, never have to aim outside the pocket (I´m not talking about 3 tips of english now), if you want a bit of a more swerve you just raise the butt a tiny bit and you have it.
A "strong" taper also does that, it behaves the same on different stroke speeds, same deflection (not talking about swerve, throw here), a weak shaft can shoot low in low speeds but can squirt big time in faster speeds imo.
The quality of the Autumn is great, the finish is absolutely perfect, seen as good but never better. For a untrained eye it seems perfect, for a pool nerd, well it´s handmade and you can find something if you look very close. Can Rick get better, of course we all can but he is already way up there in most departments.
I´m actually feeling a bit sorry for him because I know how much time he put on the bumper part - the rosewood, finishing it etc and when it arrived the finish hadn´t cured enough so you could see "grains" from the packing - no biggie though but Rick sanded and put more finish, sanded etc several times to make it real shiny, - and it was.
So as you might guess I´m more than happy with the Autumn, the quality, the playability and Rick´s and mine cooperation in work etc makes this cue something real special. I can highly recommend his cues! If you like whippy cues though it´s not for you.
Well I guess I covered most, if you have any questions feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them.
Btw - a cue suited for you and If you know what to look for in playability will make you a ball better imo. To have a cue that can take "any" shot is a really good cue imo. Some cues you have to adjust to, some cues adjusts to you, Rick´s cues does the later.
Regards
Chrippa
Thanks! Mean either
, I haven´t got the design in my head yet. The wood looks amazing however but I will wait until it gets to Rick and we can talk it over, better pics etc. Have numerous ideas in my head but the design starts when I get to see the wood more closely. Rick however want´s to be pushed to his limits so I will see what I can do about it. I think we will do a real nice MW also. Simple can be great. A short review after some play yesterday:
First - I´m pretty well trained to test out cues and since this was going to be a player for me it has my specs, Rick´s own specs in his cues was already very close so it wasn´t a biggie, I just changed the tip to 12.75 and a 1/2 ferrule to make the deflection were I want it, use to.
So with that said I felt it was going to be a good player of course, my expectations was there. However I can set that aside when testing cues.
The cue did meet my expectations of a cue that fits me, I "found" it right away, it was very easy to judge the deflection, get used to the overall balance, weight, feeling of the shaft when stroking etc.
The cue plays very strong, very consistent, ld - but not "extreme" (don´t like that at all) - this is something I can write a lot of, but for now I can say - please folks, LD is not a quality thing, it can be just as bad as HD - think about swerve, throw, parallel aim - pivot aim etc, if you know what to look for you can use it good - go with the flow sort of imo.
Deflections is a fact, go with it, I like to use deflection, swerve when shooting shots and a solid shaft (I have tried several) with a shorter ferrule provides me with a great feedback (solid feel), a deflection that is very easy to adjust to - you can aim inside a part of the pocket, never have to aim outside the pocket (I´m not talking about 3 tips of english now), if you want a bit of a more swerve you just raise the butt a tiny bit and you have it.
A "strong" taper also does that, it behaves the same on different stroke speeds, same deflection (not talking about swerve, throw here), a weak shaft can shoot low in low speeds but can squirt big time in faster speeds imo.
The quality of the Autumn is great, the finish is absolutely perfect, seen as good but never better. For a untrained eye it seems perfect, for a pool nerd, well it´s handmade and you can find something if you look very close. Can Rick get better, of course we all can but he is already way up there in most departments.
I´m actually feeling a bit sorry for him because I know how much time he put on the bumper part - the rosewood, finishing it etc and when it arrived the finish hadn´t cured enough so you could see "grains" from the packing - no biggie though but Rick sanded and put more finish, sanded etc several times to make it real shiny, - and it was.
So as you might guess I´m more than happy with the Autumn, the quality, the playability and Rick´s and mine cooperation in work etc makes this cue something real special. I can highly recommend his cues
! If you like whippy cues though it´s not for you.Well I guess I covered most, if you have any questions feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them.
Btw - a cue suited for you and If you know what to look for in playability will make you a ball better imo. To have a cue that can take "any" shot is a really good cue imo. Some cues you have to adjust to, some cues adjusts to you, Rick´s cues does the later
.Regards
Chrippa
Chris,
The wood bumper did take a lot of time to finish and the hole for the bolt wanted to get smaller. I had to grind the side wall of the bolt after all of the light coats.
I will make a new bumper plate out of Juma and engrave it and will put a o ring groove on the back. This was my plan but when I fit it up it tightened real nice. I did not test hit the cue, that's on me.
My first request for bumper less and when you do something for the first time there is always a price to pay for experince.
Those micarta ferrules are very hard at 94 on the scale and even tho they are that hard they are quiet from the nature of the chemistry involved and the asbestos. As you know they are not the softer Westinghouse sheet micarta but are extracted from a sprial woven 3" rod that is very hard. Since we did the pads in orange plastic material I am wondering how the ferrule sounded to you when you struck the ball. If your impression was quiet, then the plastic pad had no effect, if your impression was loud or high pitched, then the plastic was the culprit.
I am very curious to find out your thoughts in that area. Please do not respond to me until you have played again and can focus on that singularly when the plate buzz is remedied.
Until you get the backplate, I would remove it and put a light layer of silicone on the back and let it cure overnight to remove the buzz. Play with it until I send you the Juma one. Them mail me back the wood one and I will re do it.
The finish on it was lacquer not automotive clear like the cue and as you know that bumper finishing took a week because of the coats. It needed to cure longer. Lessons learned.
Thanks Chris, I can't wait to see what that 500.00 turning blank looks like when I hold it. I am not a cue maker the worships wood as I see it as something that is functional in cue building. After see this piece you discovered, I could get addicted to wood worship like appreciating fine wine.
I never had museum grade wood in my shop and I will treat it and handle it during all operations like it is a newborn baby.
Rick
The wood bumper did take a lot of time to finish and the hole for the bolt wanted to get smaller. I had to grind the side wall of the bolt after all of the light coats.
I will make a new bumper plate out of Juma and engrave it and will put a o ring groove on the back. This was my plan but when I fit it up it tightened real nice. I did not test hit the cue, that's on me.
My first request for bumper less and when you do something for the first time there is always a price to pay for experince.
Those micarta ferrules are very hard at 94 on the scale and even tho they are that hard they are quiet from the nature of the chemistry involved and the asbestos. As you know they are not the softer Westinghouse sheet micarta but are extracted from a sprial woven 3" rod that is very hard. Since we did the pads in orange plastic material I am wondering how the ferrule sounded to you when you struck the ball. If your impression was quiet, then the plastic pad had no effect, if your impression was loud or high pitched, then the plastic was the culprit.
I am very curious to find out your thoughts in that area. Please do not respond to me until you have played again and can focus on that singularly when the plate buzz is remedied.
Until you get the backplate, I would remove it and put a light layer of silicone on the back and let it cure overnight to remove the buzz. Play with it until I send you the Juma one. Them mail me back the wood one and I will re do it.
The finish on it was lacquer not automotive clear like the cue and as you know that bumper finishing took a week because of the coats. It needed to cure longer. Lessons learned.
Thanks Chris, I can't wait to see what that 500.00 turning blank looks like when I hold it. I am not a cue maker the worships wood as I see it as something that is functional in cue building. After see this piece you discovered, I could get addicted to wood worship like appreciating fine wine.
I never had museum grade wood in my shop and I will treat it and handle it during all operations like it is a newborn baby.
Rick
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lessons learned
Bumper issue. Well this is a great example of progress is being made. I have now come up with more ideas about bumpers.
I have thought about bumper/bumperless ideas for quite a while since that part is so visible and that not many CM´s have worked with it. I personally don´t like the look of a rubber bumper (it surely has it place in certain cues though) at "all", I of course understand it´s use but the look......
Rick and I are now talking about it and is taking it further and further, he is now working on a piece that will replace the existent one. I hope this is a trend (new designs on butts) that will grow.
I kind of like butts:wink:.
I won´t give the idea away right now but soon.
Btw another lesson is also - always hit with the cue before sending it out. Rick wanted me to be the first so much that we skipped that part - not good but lesson learned.
I have had about 20 hours of play with the cue so far and I like it a lot, a lot of people love the looks of it, some say it, some are jealous and sneaks at it thinking I don´t see. If you want something in life you got to "see it" to make it happen, if you want it but can´t be happy for another that has it - well it kinds of mixing up the dream a bit.
My colors is of course not for everyone, but for me this cue is "me" and I love it!
Have a really nice day you all!
Chrippa
Bumper issue. Well this is a great example of progress is being made. I have now come up with more ideas about bumpers.
I have thought about bumper/bumperless ideas for quite a while since that part is so visible and that not many CM´s have worked with it. I personally don´t like the look of a rubber bumper (it surely has it place in certain cues though) at "all", I of course understand it´s use but the look.....
.Rick and I are now talking about it and is taking it further and further, he is now working on a piece that will replace the existent one. I hope this is a trend (new designs on butts) that will grow.
I kind of like butts:wink:.
I won´t give the idea away right now but soon.
Btw another lesson is also - always hit with the cue before sending it out. Rick wanted me to be the first so much that we skipped that part - not good but lesson learned
. I have had about 20 hours of play with the cue so far and I like it a lot, a lot of people love the looks of it, some say it, some are jealous and sneaks at it thinking I don´t see
. If you want something in life you got to "see it" to make it happen, if you want it but can´t be happy for another that has it - well it kinds of mixing up the dream a bit.My colors is of course not for everyone, but for me this cue is "me" and I love it!
Have a really nice day you all!
Chrippa
Beautiful design and awesome cue indeed.Everything is matched very nicely together and seems that work is top notch.Colors used in the cue look amazing and even name of the cue suits well in all the story.
Congratulations on great cue and I believe when you are saying you have a great communication with Rick all way thru.
:smile::smile::smile:
Congratulations on great cue and I believe when you are saying you have a great communication with Rick all way thru.
:smile::smile::smile:
