AZ's Mike Wong in Semi's

Can you say OCD? I had a guy living down the street from me. He would come out and lock his front door, then turn the knob and stare at it for a few seconds, then grab the doorknob and try to open the door to make sure it was locked. He would get in his car in the driveway and then get out and go check the door again. He would do this 4 or 5 times before he left and then he would leave and drive around the block and come back and jump out of his car and run up to the door to check it again. Finally he would leave.
 
ChicagoRJ said:
You may think so, but you'd be wrong. there are other things "at work" here that you may not be familiar with. Everyone has their "ticks" and such in many different things they do, whether sports, work, life, etc. It certainly is not intentional. I don't think he's that good of an actor ;)
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No offense but you are someone who has a limited time dealing with the guy. Some of us have known him for years upon years. There is a very good reason why he does not get a lot of action and it is not from players being afraid to play the guy.

His stalling is a move on many fronts but believe what you want. I go by actual reality having been there in person and knowing a lot of stuff directly.
 
Non Smoker said:
Can you say OCD? I had a guy living down the street from me. He would come out and lock his front door, then turn the knob and stare at it for a few seconds, then grab the doorknob and try to open the door to make sure it was locked. He would get in his car in the driveway and then get out and go check the door again. He would do this 4 or 5 times before he left and then he would leave and drive around the block and come back and jump out of his car and run up to the door to check it again. Finally he would leave.
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How about the woman who constantly sniffed the burners on her stove before she left the house and she had an electric range.
 
I know Mike's slow play is annoying but I don't think it's an intentional shark move...I think he has the same physiological problem Michael Cheng has...It's hard to explain but it's a nervous habit thing...Sorta like Archer's lint picking thing..It's nerve's and hard to pull the trigger...
Not saying it don't annoy people but I think it's a nervous thing and He can't pull the trigger yet problem..
I may be wrong but that's how I see it....It's in his head...
 
Non Smoker said:
Can you say OCD? I had a guy living down the street from me. He would come out and lock his front door, then turn the knob and stare at it for a few seconds, then grab the doorknob and try to open the door to make sure it was locked. He would get in his car in the driveway and then get out and go check the door again. He would do this 4 or 5 times before he left and then he would leave and drive around the block and come back and jump out of his car and run up to the door to check it again. Finally he would leave.
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My second wife was that way. She was constantly asking me if I was through yet. :smile:
 
pwd72s said:
The way he picked up after the shot clock was imposed? Damn right he does it on purpose, as in a sharking trick. It was the first time I watched him play, but it was obvious to me he does his crazy minutes long pre shot routine to get into his opponents heads.

He may be the nicest guy on the planet off the table...but on it? He will shark like crazy in order to win...so, far as I'm concerned, he has no pool ethics. Pool ethics...yeah, I know...an oxymoron.
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Do you know Mike personally? How were you able to ascertain his intentions? Are you making assumptions or is there some basis in fact for your claims. I'm curious.

KMRUNOUT
 
NINEBALLART said:
I know Mike's slow play is annoying but I don't think it's an intentional shark move...I think he has the same physiological problem Michael Cheng has...It's hard to explain but it's a nervous habit thing...Sorta like Archer's lint picking thing..It's nerve's and hard to pull the trigger...
Not saying it don't annoy people but I think it's a nervous thing and He can't pull the trigger yet problem..
I may be wrong but that's how I see it....It's in his head...
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Are you saying his mommy beat him with a hanger when he misses a ball. Every tournament he enters he should be put on a clock. It's unfair to other participants. ...must add half a day to the events he's in.
 
This thread has really opened my eyes to the remarkable insight people have into the minds of another person. See, all along I used to think that only idiots made assumptions about what other people think and why. This thread has really set me straight about that. All this time I figured that people simply project *themselves* into the situation, and assume the other person is operating on the same set of principles that *they* would in that situation. Now I have come to learn that contrary to the words of the philosopher Petty, you actually do, in fact, know what it's like to be me.

Good thing I was wrong all along, or else this whole thread would a reminder of the glaring foolishness of the average person.

In other news, I've never watched Mike Wong play. I'll have to check out some youtube and see just how slow he is. Of course, this wouldn't give me the slightest clue into what is going on in his head, but I'm kinda curious what people are talking about.

KMRUNOUT
 
KMRUNOUT said:
This thread has really opened my eyes to the remarkable insight people have into the minds of another person. See, all along I used to think that only idiots made assumptions about what other people think and why. This thread has really set me straight about that. All this time I figured that people simply project *themselves* into the situation, and assume the other person is operating on the same set of principles that *they* would in that situation. Now I have come to learn that contrary to the words of the philosopher Petty, you actually do, in fact, know what it's like to be me.

Good thing I was wrong all along, or else this whole thread would a reminder of the glaring foolishness of the average person.

In other news, I've never watched Mike Wong play. I'll have to check out some youtube and see just how slow he is. Of course, this wouldn't give me the slightest clue into what is going on in his head, but I'm kinda curious what people are talking about.

KMRUNOUT
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Hope you got nothing planned today....this guy moves like a snail.
 
KMRUNOUT said:
In other news, I've never watched Mike Wong play. I'll have to check out some youtube and see just how slow he is. Of course, this wouldn't give me the slightest clue into what is going on in his head, but I'm kinda curious what people are talking about.

KMRUNOUT
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Here's a 9 ball race to 7 that's nearly 2 1/2 hours. 2.5 hrs!!...so much pressure on his opponent to NOT miss because whatever happens, his next inning won't be for awhile.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqnuIIeLQGE

I think I'd rather light my head on fire and put out the flames with a sledgehammer than to play someone that uses an entire cube of chalk for one match. Being down 1 or 2 games to Wong must be what it feels like to be drowning.

Enjoy
 
KMRUNOUT said:
Do you know Mike personally? How were you able to ascertain his intentions? Are you making assumptions or is there some basis in fact for your claims. I'm curious.

KMRUNOUT
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The FACT is that he still shot well after being placed on the clock. The ASSUMPTION is that because of this, I made the conclusion that his painfully slow play is a sharking move.

I'll admit my evidence is circumstantial. People get convicted with circumstantial evidence all the time. Ask any lawyer of judge.

The fact remains...if I'm watching another tournament on a stream and he is one of the players coming up I will leave the stream for a minimum of three hours. Unless, of course, he is put on a shot clock.
 
TheLoneSilencer said:
Some on this site actually do. He is doing it as a move.
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Whether it is a "move" or not is debatable.

It is NOT debatable that he is taking WAY MORE time than the "average" of all the other players. That affects not only the person he is playing against, but all of the other people in the tournament that have games after his games.

Tournament lengths are not based upon EVERY guy taking forever and a day to shoot each shot and chalk 40 times in between.

He reminds me of an old guy called Blackie (he was white, BTW) that used to play snooker in the pool hall where I worked as a kid and up until graduating High School.

Blackie shot pretty good and could beat a lot of players, but nobody would play him because he took forever like Mike and the guy played safeties 90% of the time because he wouldn't shoot at anything that wasn't a lock.

I used to spot him 60 points on the wire and still beat his ass, because I had nothing better to do (besides working) and would wait him out and out safety him. You shouldn't have to do that in a tournament where it affects every other player behind you.
 
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I remember one time in particular that by the end of the match, you could swear by the Beard of Zeus that his hair grew a couple of inches.
 
KMRUNOUT said:
This thread has really opened my eyes to the remarkable insight people have into the minds of another person. See, all along I used to think that only idiots made assumptions about what other people think and why. This thread has really set me straight about that. All this time I figured that people simply project *themselves* into the situation, and assume the other person is operating on the same set of principles that *they* would in that situation. Now I have come to learn that contrary to the words of the philosopher Petty, you actually do, in fact, know what it's like to be me.

Good thing I was wrong all along, or else this whole thread would a reminder of the glaring foolishness of the average person.

In other news, I've never watched Mike Wong play. I'll have to check out some youtube and see just how slow he is. Of course, this wouldn't give me the slightest clue into what is going on in his head, but I'm kinda curious what people are talking about.

KMRUNOUT
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He is 10 hours into the video's I suppose. Must really be enjoying it. Not trying to get in RUNOUT'S head of course or project myself into his home theater with popcorn and all while he watches MW stall. I have watched these video's and can say for sure that his slow play lacks integrity and is anathema to most tournament players, gamblers, and probably Stevie Wonder as well.
It looks like a move, smells like a move, and eye witnesses corroborate this. I don't give a rat's ass what is going on in his belfry and don't care to.

Outside the pool room it sounds like he is polite and well spoken. Pool is played in a pool room. He needs to play faster.
 
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