Back in the old days.

You could also pay your bill with live chickens.
Still can sometimes. The mother of one of my medical students is a doctor in Appalachia. She is occasionally paid with pies, chickens, and other such things. Not kidding.

It's funny though that people point this out sometimes as a means of deriding physicians. When they do, I always ask them: "How many chickens do you have?" Not once in the 25 years I have been asking that question in response to the chicken comment did a single one of those whining idiots have a single chicken.
 
Carom cues developed in Europe, mostly. I'm guessing the wood working tradition there had something to do with it. Two piece pool cues in the US seem to have started with metal pins. Rambow? Before him?
Way before Rambow I believe.
 
Still can sometimes. The mother of one of my medical students is a doctor in Appalachia. She is occasionally paid with pies, chickens, and other such things. Not kidding.

It's funny though that people point this out sometimes as a means of deriding physicians. When they do, I always ask them: "How many chickens do you have?" Not once in the 25 years I have been asking that question in response to the chicken comment did a single one of those whining idiots have a single chicken.
Strange….I’ve always thought accepting payments like that spoke well of doctors.
 
Strange….I’ve always thought accepting payments like that spoke well of doctors.
They use it as an insult by saying we no longer do.
Private practice doctors can accept whatever payment they like.

I have known two orthopedic surgeons that are cash only, no insurance accepted. And they both take whatever you are willing to pay.

As I said, one of my med student's mother is a doctor in Appalachia and has accepted pies, chickens, and more.

I myself have accepted a car, an AK47, a steak dinner, and more. But that was not for clinical consultation, that was for medical education.

My most recent licensed clinical work was during COVID. That paid a salary, which I donated back to the institution.
 
Strange….I’ve always thought accepting payments like that spoke well of doctors.

My primary care guy has been in practice in the same place over thirty years. We stayed visiting an hour after his normal closing so I went out through the break room. It was crammed with homemade goodies and locally grown fresh fruit. Not payments, thank you gifts and signs of respect in this case. He has literally saved my life with minutes to spare twice, he gets embarrassed if I remind him of that.

Another quirk of his, his home phone and address are listed in the phone book, a tradition dating back to day one! I have his cell number too. I don't abuse these things but I find his dedication amazing in this day and age.

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Twenty years ago I played with Kim Shaws cue. If I recall correctly it was 56” made for her by Layani.
That cue hit straight as straight could get.
Fifty six inches is uncomfortable for my arm length and posture.
I play a lot of 3 cushion and can’t get use to a standard 3c cue.

I’ve mentioned it on here 1000 times.
Ape Index and Gait/Body Gait is a real thing.
Most players don't know it exists, how to locate it, and use to their advantage.
Cue length lives matter..
 
I had an 1918 Brunswick in close to new condition with original silk grip….it had a metal pin.
According to the innerwebz, Rambow started making cues in 1915 when he would have been 33. I have only heard of him working for Brunswick. Also, someone said he only used metal pins.
 
If my opponent called this shot in a match, I’d be inclined to break my cue apart, shake their hand and tell them they play a game I’m not equipped to compete against. I did not know, or ever imagine, a masse shot like that was possible. That was like watching a herding dog move a small flock of sheep into a coral just by nudging and steering them just like that cue ball.
 
If my opponent called this shot in a match, I’d be inclined to break my cue apart, shake their hand and tell them they play a game I’m not equipped to compete against. I did not know, or ever imagine, a masse shot like that was possible. That was like watching a herding dog move a small flock of sheep into a coral just by nudging and steering them just like that cue ball.
It is amazing.

Have you ever watched artistic pool championships?
 
If my opponent called this shot in a match, I’d be inclined to break my cue apart, shake their hand and tell them they play a game I’m not equipped to compete against. I did not know, or ever imagine, a masse shot like that was possible. That was like watching a herding dog move a small flock of sheep into a coral just by nudging and steering them just like that cue ball.
Shots similar to this but not nearly as dramatic are fairly common in straight rail and balkline. The cue ball retains some spin after hitting the first ball and continues to herd it into position. Of course the shot probably took 20 or 50 tries for the video but the shooter had to know it was possible which most wouldn't. And he probably had a little silicone. ;)
 
Shots similar to this but not nearly as dramatic are fairly common in straight rail and balkline. The cue ball retains some spin after hitting the first ball and continues to herd it into position. Of course the shot probably took 20 or 50 tries for the video but the shooter had to know it was possible which most wouldn't. And he probably had a little silicone. ;)
Personally, I would like to ask him. How long did you practice? How many tries on this particular shot?

I am thinking it did not take as many tries as many people might think.

Of course, I am not including practice. Probably years of it. Then ready...set...go...try the shot.

Reyes played billiards for several years before taking on the entire pool world by storm and crushing it for years. We call him the Magician because of the skills and shots he learned to perform most likely as a billiard player I think. And in a tournament you only get one try. And he amazed us over and over again. One try.

I think in artistic pool they get three tries. In a real game or tournament? One. And real masters do it with a high degree of success. Maybe even something like this.

Pool, snooker, billiards, whatever, the masters, the real wizards, make that ball do whatever they want with a high degree of precision and success, while making it look effortless.

Or it could be 150 takes...or CGI...

I am inclined to think he did it, and with fewer attempts than might be popularly believed.

Practice. Execute.
 
Carom cues developed in Europe, mostly. I'm guessing the wood working tradition there had something to do with it. Two piece pool cues in the US seem to have started with metal pins. Rambow? Before him?
A lot of carom players stand higher to visualize angles, is this not the reason for the shorter cue length? As the leveraged position would create a shorter stroke. I just thought it was shorter as a result of the techniques required for useage
 
Personally, I would like to ask him. How long did you practice? How many tries on this particular shot?

I am thinking it did not take as many tries as many people might think.

Of course, I am not including practice. Probably years of it. Then ready...set...go...try the shot.

Reyes played billiards for several years before taking on the entire pool world by storm and crushing it for years. We call him the Magician because of the skills and shots he learned to perform most likely as a billiard player I think. And in a tournament you only get one try. And he amazed us over and over again. One try.

I think in artistic pool they get three tries. In a real game or tournament? One. And real masters do it with a high degree of success. Maybe even something like this.

Pool, snooker, billiards, whatever, the masters, the real wizards, make that ball do whatever they want with a high degree of precision and success, while making it look effortless.

Or it could be 150 takes...or CGI...

I am inclined to think he did it, and with fewer attempts than might be popularly believed.

Practice. Execute.
You are correct. In artistic pool tournaments we get 3 attempts. All the shots have a point value (degree of difficultly) going from a 6 point shot to a 10 point shot. You receive full points if the shot is made on the first attempt. If you make it on the second attempt, you get full points minus one and then minus 2 for the 3rd attempt. ie- 10, 9, 8.

We have an artistic pool event in 3 weeks. June 13th and 14th at the Clubhouse in Lynchburg Virginia if you want to watch. The Clubhouse will be providing a free stream. I am playing in at as well as Venom!!

Sometimes these shots can take a lot and some not so much. My guess is he worked on it before setting up the camera.

I don't think he used silicone here. I think the slow mo "over sells this."
 
You are correct. In artistic pool tournaments we get 3 attempts. All the shots have a point value (degree of difficultly) going from a 6 point shot to a 10 point shot. You receive full points if the shot is made on the first attempt. If you make it on the second attempt, you get full points minus one and then minus 2 for the 3rd attempt. ie- 10, 9, 8.

We have an artistic pool event in 3 weeks. June 13th and 14th at the Clubhouse in Lynchburg Virginia if you want to watch. The Clubhouse will be providing a free stream. I am playing in at as well as Venom!!

Sometimes these shots can take a lot and some not so much. My guess is he worked on it before setting up the camera.

I don't think he used silicone here. I think the slow mo "over sells this."
Thank you for chiming in. I was waiting for someone to bring up Venom. I didn't want to be the one.

Glad to hear from someone with real artistic pool experience.

I do have a masse cue. Sadly out of practice. Hard to find a table to practice that on. I don't claim to be an artist, but I can masse, with some degree of accuracy, and I did it with my Joss for many years before I got a proper masse cue. How well? Enough to make some jaws drop occasionally back when I was playing regularly.

Hint- For those near a big pool hall, talk to the manager. Ask if you can practice the day before they replace any table cloth.

I agree the slow motion adds a lot to the production of this video.

Practice. Execute.
 
Thank you for chiming in. I was waiting for someone to bring up Venom. I didn't want to be the one.

Glad to hear from someone with real artistic pool experience.

I do have a masse cue. Sadly out of practice. Hard to find a table to practice that on. I don't claim to be an artist, but I can masse, with some degree of accuracy, and I did it with my Joss for many years before I got a proper masse cue. How well? Enough to make some jaws drop occasionally back when I was playing regularly.

Hint- For those near a big pool hall, talk to the manager. Ask if you can practice the day before they replace any table cloth.

I agree the slow motion adds a lot to the production of this video.

Practice. Execute.
Its funny you talk about the practicing masses on tables getting ready to get new cloth. I got booked for a show in July because of that. It is the weekend before a Matchroom qualifier in Virginia at OnCue. The are getting new cloth like on a Monday and my show is the Saturday before. So there will be a lot of jump and masse shots for this show. :)
 
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