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5ballcharlie

5ballcharlie

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I had a triangle tip put on the other day. I like triangle and have played alot with them and elk master. Anyways, the tip started flaking really bad and after every shot it was mushrooming. I tried to fix it but it started flaking off and breaking. Anyone else every had this problem with anykind of tips.
 
There was a post about them awhile back in the cuemakers section. Tweeten has dropped the ball on the triangle tips, either qc or they flat out changed the way they are making them.
Pressing them helps, but they are still not like they used to be.
Chuck
 
5ballcharlie said:
I had a triangle tip put on the other day. I like triangle and have played alot with them and elk master. Anyways, the tip started flaking really bad and after every shot it was mushrooming. I tried to fix it but it started flaking off and breaking. Anyone else every had this problem with anykind of tips.
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This has happened to the last 3 Triangle tips I've put on - they start flaking really bad and don't hold their shape. I was starting to think I was doing something wrong (I pressed the tips before installing them) but I guess they were just a bad batch. Some other people have been complaining that the quality of Triangle tips has been declining for some time.
 
Yes...Triangle, Lepro's, Elkies, all are very subject to having many bad ones in the bunch. Often a bad section of leather and they will seem brittle/stringy/soft. Try another tip. Maybe another box. Also if your tip replacement person is using a dull cutter it can have this effect on the tip as he trims it. Always be sure tools are extra sharp. If you push upward on the side of the tip with your finger, you should see no movement. If it spreads/moves...replace it. You should really consider trying the Sniper by Tiger. You'll thank me.
 
Varney Cues said:
Yes...Triangle, Lepro's, Elkies, all are very subject to having many bad ones in the bunch. Often a bad section of leather and they will seem brittle/stringy/soft. Try another tip. Maybe another box. Also if your tip replacement person is using a dull cutter it can have this effect on the tip as he trims it. Always be sure tools are extra sharp. If you push upward on the side of the tip with your finger, you should see no movement. If it spreads/moves...replace it. You should really consider trying the Sniper by Tiger. You'll thank me.
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I have played with all 3. I like triangle but I dont know if I will use them again if the quality has gone to shit. People always knock le pro but I have never had a problem with them. Elk Master is what I will probably put on.
 
Yeah snipers are great but Im addicted to TAILSMAN TIPS. I never need to work on the tip at all. I had a tiger tip before that and really loved it - so either one I think youll find works great for you.
 
same problem with triangle tips

maybe thier quality control has gone to S***
out of 50 triangles, lucky to get 25 good ones
out of 50 elks, lucky to get 25 also
out of 50 lepros, lucky to get 40

wouldn't be so bad if they were HALF the PRICE i pay :rolleyes:
 
9BallBust-O said:
Yeah snipers are great but Im addicted to TAILSMAN TIPS. I never need to work on the tip at all. I had a tiger tip before that and really loved it - so either one I think youll find works great for you.
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Talisman's are great. For a long time I was using the hards, but have now gone to the "soft" which isn't soft at all... much easier to control, and plays just fine.

Also, no shaping of the tip is necessary after break-in, just chalking and everything's fine.

Flex
 
9BallBust-O said:
Yeah snipers are great but Im addicted to TAILSMAN TIPS. I never need to work on the tip at all. I had a tiger tip before that and really loved it - so either one I think youll find works great for you.
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I shoot with a talisman hard tip as well. I haven't even had to shape it yet and it has seen alot of play. You could drive the damn thing in concrete and it won't mushroom. It has a nice feel as well and even though its a hard tip I hardly ever miscue and when I do it's probably my fault. I love them! Although the first one I put on did peel apart so I switched tips. After a while I had no tips so I tried the Talisman again crossing my fingers. I don't think it has even gotten smaller and its probably hit at least 50,000 balls:eek:
 
Harvywallbanger said:
I shoot with a talisman hard tip as well. I haven't even had to shape it yet and it has seen alot of play. You could drive the damn thing in concrete and it won't mushroom. It has a nice feel as well and even though its a hard tip I hardly ever miscue and when I do it's probably my fault. I love them! Although the first one I put on did peel apart so I switched tips. After a while I had no tips so I tried the Talisman again crossing my fingers. I don't think it has even gotten smaller and its probably hit at least 50,000 balls:eek:
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Those Talisman hards last forever, no mushrooming. While we're at it, my Talisman soft was installed probably a month ago, has probably seen at least 75 hours of pool, just guessing at that, and hasn't mushroomed one bit... And I break with it too.

The soft tip probably miscues a bit less, and touch shots are perhaps easier to execute than with a hard or medium. For the time being, I'm not changing that tip...

Flex
 
You like the soft better than the hard? If the soft don't even mushroom maybe I will try a medium next time...if there is a next time. LOL I never use to like hard tips because I always had to use a tip tapper on them but for some reason this hard talisman doesn't even require that. Every now and then I'll do it but I honestly don't think I have to. It holds chalk better than any tip I have tried. But in all honesty this is my first layered tip so I haven't tried the other ones but...
 
Harvywallbanger said:
You like the soft better than the hard? If the soft don't even mushroom maybe I will try a medium next time...if there is a next time. LOL I never use to like hard tips because I always had to use a tip tapper on them but for some reason this hard talisman doesn't even require that. Every now and then I'll do it but I honestly don't think I have to. It holds chalk better than any tip I have tried. But in all honesty this is my first layered tip so I haven't tried the other ones but...
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The reason I like the soft better is on those shots that require a very small stroke, meaning, for me, perhaps two or three inches of stroke, applied very gently, with english, the cue ball doesn't get away from me so easily. Oh, it can be done just fine with the hard tip too, but I find I'm somewhat "afraid" of what's going to happen with the cue ball, even with the very gentle stroke. I changed to the soft on the cue and shaft I'm currently using after I had the shaft retapered, and installed a Talisman hard on it. Very easy to lose control. I swapped the soft, and, after a bit of adjustment, have grown to love the way it plays.

Flex
 
...but don't you get more english with a softer tip? This is what I always thought. Am I wrong about this? It just seemed to me that I always had to put more into it with a hard tip. So if a hard does put less english on the cueball doesn't this mean it would be more accurate. I could be wrong I guess.
 
Harvywallbanger said:
...but don't you get more english with a softer tip? This is what I always thought. Am I wrong about this? It just seemed to me that I always had to put more into it with a hard tip. So if a hard does put less english on the cueball doesn't this mean it would be more accurate. I could be wrong I guess.
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What convinced me was shooting one of the drills on http://www.proskilldrills.com , this one in particular:

http://www.proskilldrills.com/drill9.htm

I found that when shooting this drill the key was stroking the cue ball correctly with english. It's just easier to control the cueball with the slower tip. Can it be done with the hard tip? Of course it can. It could be that my cue is too "powerful" for the hard tip for these shots. With another cue and shaft, perhaps the medium would work better. (BTW, after shooting this drill for about two hours, and changing the angles a bit, etc., my game definitely went up a notch, if not two.)

I suppose all in all it depends on your cue's setup. Why not try their medium tip, and their soft tip too? Allow plenty of time to get used to each, and then decide which works best for you ;)

Flex
 
yeah I seen those drills in another thread. They look pretty good. When this one wheres out I'll try a medium...but I will be sticking with Talisman none-the-less:) I get what you were saying now. You have more control with english.
 
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