Banking The CTE Way On A Diamond Table

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SpiderWebComm

SpiderWebComm

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Throw 15 balls out on the table and start wherever you wish with a one rail or more bank. If you can run all 15, more power to you. Or match what is on the video if you can.

No OB is preset against the rail with a preset CB that's been tested to be dead in.

Use whatever works best for you whether it's "feel" or a banking system. You could use CTE as done by the Pro instructor who kind of knows a little about CTE.

Video yourself banking however many you can and post it. No virtual pool allowed, only a real human with some know how and nerve.

I might even croak on the spot if someone stepped up to the plate and ran the table so it would be a great way to get rid of me.

No knocking is needed. Just do it or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ZbmUWs3G0&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=100&t=0s
 
Lol...on behalf of everyone here, it's only fair to add the following bit of info, just to put this video into proper perspective.

Dan White said:
The reality is that Stan took up bank pool at the age of 8 and by his own words was proficient at banks by the age of 9 or 10. He played bank pool pretty much exclusively until he was 16 years old and eventually became what he considers a professional level pool player. He was a damned good bank player and is the model of a young motivated player who learned by hitting a million balls (the HAMB method). When asked recently what his favorite game is, he replied that it was banks.
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Eddie "The Knoxville Bear" Taylor said he ran all 15 five times and ran 12 or 13 hundreds of times.

Then of course there's the $74 he made at $2 a bank, running 37 without a miss. He said it all came natural to him (read: no aiming system).

Lou Figueroa
 
BC21 said:
Lol...on behalf of everyone here, it's only fair to add the following bit of info, just to put this video into proper perspective.
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There's a big difference...everything in this video was done with CTE alignments and a pivot.

You may choose to not believe it and say otherwise, but that's how it was done.

LOL all you want. I knew this was coming sooner or later from someone. (or more)

Another video coming soon.
 
lfigueroa said:
Eddie "The Knoxville Bear" Taylor said he ran all 15 five times and ran 12 or 13 hundreds of times.

Then of course there's the $74 he made at $2 a bank, running 37 without a miss. He said it all came natural to him (read: no aiming system).

Lou Figueroa
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Eddie Taylor was one of the best bank players ever.

Use Eddie's "no aiming system" or do whatever you think works. Put up a video of you banking with 15 balls on the table.

If anyone might have a good showing my guess would be you from experience in all games.

Just do it, don't knock it.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
There's a big difference...everything in this video was done with CTE alignments and a pivot.

You may choose to not believe it and say otherwise, but that's how it was done.

LOL all you want. I knew this was coming sooner or later from someone. (or more)

Another video coming soon.
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I surely didn't mean any disrespect toward Stan or CTE. He has always been a great player, at least since he was very young, early teens. Do I believe that he believes he is able to make all these banks using Pro1 only? Yes. But I also believe, which is only common sense, that his experience with bank shots plays a far greater role with these banks than Pro1 itself.
 
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BC21 said:
I surely didn't mean any disrespect toward Stan or CTE. He has always been a great player, at least since he was very young, early teens. Do I believe that he believes he is able to make all these banks using Pro1 only? Yes. But I also believe, which is only common sense, that his experience with bank shots plays a far greater role in these banks than Pro1 itself.
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With that line of thinking you would have to say it also applies to every shot on the table from straight in, to mild cuts, to extreme cuts.

And it's just totally FALSE. He doesn't revert to anything he used to do prior to CTE.
It required changing the way he sees the shots before he takes his stance, his visual alignments between the balls, how he sets up his bridge, where the cue is, and the stroke. NOTHING is the same other than he's on pool table with a cue in his hand.

To say otherwise when he in fact does use CTE and calls it out in person as he did when I was with him learning it for a week, IS disrespect and in essence calling him a liar.

Certainly didn't take long for this crap ONCE AGAIN!
 
SpiderWebComm said:
With that line of thinking you would have to say it also applies to every shot on the table from straight in, to mild cuts, to extreme cuts.

And it's just totally FALSE. He doesn't revert to anything he used to do prior to CTE.
It required changing the way he sees the shots before he takes his stance, his visual alignments between the balls, how he sets up his bridge, where the cue is, and the stroke. NOTHING is the same other than he's on pool table with a cue in his hand.

To say otherwise when he in fact does use CTE and calls it out in person as he did when I was with him learning it for a week, IS disrespect and in essence calling him a liar.

Certainly didn't take long for this crap ONCE AGAIN!
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It's not disrespectful to point out the importance of experience. But you tend to take any criticism or non-praise, or common sense opinions or statements that oppose your own, as "disrespectful" or "bashing". That's the reason things get heated beyond civility. When someone has an opposing idea or opinion, you see it as "crap", when the best response is really to just say, "I don't think so."
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Eddie Taylor was one of the best bank players ever.

Use Eddie's "no aiming system" or do whatever you think works. Put up a video of you banking with 15 balls on the table.

If anyone might have a good showing my guess would be you from experience in all games.

Just do it, don't knock it.
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Why -- what would it prove?

If I put up a video of a 100 ball run, or a video running all 15 into one pocket, should I demand/challenge you and others attempt to do the same? Obviously the answer is "no" because things like that are only evidence of how many thousands of hours you've put in on a pool table and your experience at one particular game, whether banks, 14.1, or 1pocket.

It also has something to do with whether you have a home table and can constantly run video until you ultimately accomplish whatever it is you're after. Give a monkey a million hours at a keyboard and he'll eventually crank out a line of Shakespeare.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
Why -- what would it prove?

If I put up a video of a 100 ball run, or a video running all 15 into one pocket, should I demand/challenge you and others attempt to do the same? Obviously the answer is "no" because things like that are only evidence of how many thousands of hours you've put in on a pool table and your experience at one particular game, whether banks, 14.1, or 1pocket.

It also has something to do with whether you have a home table and can constantly run video until you ultimately accomplish whatever it is you're after. Give a monkey a million hours at a keyboard and he'll eventually crank out a line of Shakespeare.

Lou Figueroa
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You're knocking this to no end from ever angle you can come up with.

"Eddie Taylor had many 15 ball banks...ya da ya da ya da"

Mosconi had a 526 ball run in 14.1 and you put up a video or videos of a number
that is 1/5 of what he did. A little over 100. Should you be wasted for being inferior. How about the 600+ ball run recently?

Any time guys have a 100 ball run or more they proudly post it on the main forum and get accolades for doing it. And rightfully so because a 100 ball run is nothing to
look down upon for anyone.

And neither is a 12 ball run in banking. The part is...IT WAS ALL DONE WITH CTE VISUALS.

The thing you've been knocking for 22 years. This is more about the SYSTEM being responsible for it than THE NUMBER.
 
BC21 said:
It's not disrespectful to point out the importance of experience. But you tend to take any criticism or non-praise, or common sense opinions or statements that oppose your own, as "disrespectful" or "bashing". That's the reason things get heated beyond civility. When someone has an opposing idea or opinion, you see it as "crap", when the best response is really to just say, "I don't think so."
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I don't post the way YOU think I should post nor say what you would like others to say.

What part of the banks being all aligned and shot with CTE don't you understand?

It just so happens Stan did it.

And who is in here being negative about it...two of the five who always have up to this point...you and Lou. I fully expect the other 3 to be in shortly.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Since it's clearly exactly what you wanted to happen (do you think you're not transparent?), you should be thanking everybody.

pj
chgo
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Not hardly...but here's #3 ON THE LIST. Mr. Virtual Pool himself, Patrick Johnson. The man who fired the first cannon shot 22 years ago and who has never demonstrated anything at the table on video.

You didn't have to say SH*T. NOTHING. But you can't help yourself BECAUSE

CTE OWNED!
 
I began playing pool at the age of 8 and basically consider myself a lifelong student of the game. I have top 10 national finishes in the games of 9-ball, 8-ball, and 1-pocket. I grew up learning the game of bank and later became a 100-ball runner in straight pool. My most memorable match was in 1984 at the Tar Heel Open where I ran the 1st 5 racks of 9-ball against Hall of Famer Dallas West and winning 11-4 as was noted in The National Billiard News. My most notable tournament victory came in Athens, Georgia in 2002 at Murphy’s Brass Rail winning a Southeast Open Tour event.
I have been a billiards instructor for 29 years. I obtained my initial BCA training under Jerry Briesath in 1989 and his teachings have been the foundation for my game and for what I have imparted to others. In 1992, I became one of the original 19 chartered members of the BCA Instructors’ Program as we know it today. In October, 2006, I added BCA Advanced Level training to my instructing credentials.
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BEFORE he learned CTE. Just saying.
 
JoeyInCali said:
BEFORE he learned CTE. Just saying.
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Doesn't matter...this is AFTER he learned CTE and did what he did USING it.


It's like saying Tiger Woods was on TV hitting balls into a net when he was 3 years old and then won the US Amateur a number of times before turning pro.

Yes, he was a very good golfer. But EACH INSTRUCTOR he had during his career changed his swing according to the way THEY taught and saw things.

Those were BIG changes from what he was doing prior. It took a helluva adjustment and relearning to get where they wanted him.

He was no longer the "same" Tiger Woods all his life with his technique.

It constantly changed and is doing it again because of the multiple back operations.

But thanks for coming in #4.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
You're knocking this to no end from ever angle you can come up with.

"Eddie Taylor had many 15 ball banks...ya da ya da ya da"

Mosconi had a 526 ball run in 14.1 and you put up a video or videos of a number
that is 1/5 of what he did. A little over 100. Should you be wasted for being inferior. How about the 600+ ball run recently?

Any time guys have a 100 ball run or more they proudly post it on the main forum and get accolades for doing it. And rightfully so because a 100 ball run is nothing to
look down upon for anyone.

And neither is a 12 ball run in banking. The part is...IT WAS ALL DONE WITH CTE VISUALS.

The thing you've been knocking for 22 years. This is more about the SYSTEM being responsible for it than THE NUMBER.
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No, I’m not knocking it.

I just don’t get what challenging the board to replicate this has to do with anything.

OK, Stan ran 15 banks — woo hoo — all hail Stan (Be kind Rewind). Besides, you take away Stan being in the heart of banking country playing a niche game and a life time of playing it and he’s not doing it, regardless of what aiming system he is or isn’t using.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
No, I’m not knocking it.

I just don’t get what challenging the board to replicate this has to do with anything.

Nothing more than to understand and experience the difficulty of doing it. Regardless of what is used in the banking process.

OK, Stan ran 15 banks — woo hoo — all hail Stan (Be kind Rewind).

Sure sounds like knocking HIM to me. If not, you have some different ideas about knocking.

Besides, you take away Stan being in the heart of banking country playing a niche game and a life time of playing it and he’s not doing it, regardless of what aiming system he is or isn’t using.

Lou Figueroa
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Do you honestly feel that you play as good now as you did when you were younger? If you say YES, you would be lying! NOBODY does. Not Efren, not Sigel, not Varner, not Buddy Hall...NOBODY at a certain age.

Stan is NOT a young person with young eyes, or young anything. He's older than you are. What he did and is doing now at his age is INCREDIBLE! Screw what he did when he was young because he no longer is.

His game and skill level now is a direct by product of learning, refining, and using CTE whether you like it or not. It has rejuvenated and extended his pool playing years to a level that few men have at his age or younger.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Doesn't matter...this is AFTER he learned CTE and did what he did USING it.


#4.
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Sorry, I don't believe he used it.
Just experience and imaginary mirrored pocket.

Tiger Woods saying he plays much better with Nike clubs should be taken with a grain of salt .
 
lfigueroa said:
No, I’m not knocking it.

I just don’t get what challenging the board to replicate this has to do with anything.

OK, Stan ran 15 banks — woo hoo — all hail Stan (Be kind Rewind). Besides, you take away Stan being in the heart of banking country playing a niche game and a life time of playing it and he’s not doing it, regardless of what aiming system he is or isn’t using.

Lou Figueroa
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#5 checking in. :grin:

Let's say Spider is right. Stan's 60+ year love affair with banks has nothing to do with his ability to run 12 banks in a row. Stan used CTE to pocket those balls (with an extremely well disguised pivot, I might add). The inference that Spider wants to draw is that CTE is responsible for the banking success, not Stan, per se.

What can we predict from the above? Well, it seems that anybody well versed in CTE Pro1 should also be capable of running 12 in a row, even someone who has never played banks at all. Why didn't Spider post a video of himself running 12 banks? Other names that quickly come to mind are cookie and mohrt.

How 'bout it guys?

(Oh, and a number of those banks were made with significant amounts of english, which I thought was something a guy playing with feel might do).
 
BC21 said:
Lol...on behalf of everyone here, it's only fair to add the following bit of info, just to put this video into proper perspective.
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Learn CTE from Stan and you, too, can bank like Stan*.
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* Stan has been banking for over 60 years but he thew all that skill away and he's using only CTE now. If you believe that is possible you are either gullible or you're an $%^%$.
 
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