Brian Gregg beat SHannon again this year.............wowweeeeeeeee
Banks ring game winner
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Impressive!
This is strictly from memory...so I may be off.
Piggy Banks went out first...
Then Freddy, then Truman, then Fargo, then Braumbeck, and then it came down to Brian and Shannon.
They chatted and made a saver I think cause they only played 1 game of 800 a ball banks and then they had to go all in, with Shannon breaking. He comes up dry and misses. Brian misses. Shannon misses, then Brian banks two balls and wins. They were 7100 to 6900, Shannon in the lead going into the final rack. All Shannon had to do was make a ball on the break and bank 1 ball in, but he didn't. He almost scratched as a matter of fact.
Nobody ran over 4 banks, but I believe Shannon and Brian each did have a run of 4. High run got a bonus 1k donated by a spectator.
To me, it was not done very well AT ALL. The time limit should not of been imposed and they should of had at least 1 more game of 800 a ball banks, then maybe do one for 1600 as well.
All players were missing banks...table was tight and was banking short from what I saw. Not many finese banks either, which was very disappointing.
Freddy made an awesome bank using a bridge over a ball though!
Shorty
Piggy Banks went out first...
Then Freddy, then Truman, then Fargo, then Braumbeck, and then it came down to Brian and Shannon.
They chatted and made a saver I think cause they only played 1 game of 800 a ball banks and then they had to go all in, with Shannon breaking. He comes up dry and misses. Brian misses. Shannon misses, then Brian banks two balls and wins. They were 7100 to 6900, Shannon in the lead going into the final rack. All Shannon had to do was make a ball on the break and bank 1 ball in, but he didn't. He almost scratched as a matter of fact.
Nobody ran over 4 banks, but I believe Shannon and Brian each did have a run of 4. High run got a bonus 1k donated by a spectator.
To me, it was not done very well AT ALL. The time limit should not of been imposed and they should of had at least 1 more game of 800 a ball banks, then maybe do one for 1600 as well.
All players were missing banks...table was tight and was banking short from what I saw. Not many finese banks either, which was very disappointing.
Freddy made an awesome bank using a bridge over a ball though!
Shorty
jason miller
he missed the ring game becouse he couldn't get sponsorship in time
he missed the ring game becouse he couldn't get sponsorship in time
Im not sure about any saver. I was there and Scott said that they had a limit on time. Therefore they were going to go ahead and go all in. they did and we have the end result.
My hats off to Brian. He is a deserving player. Talked with him at the 2004 DCC in great length about raising a family and finding time to play. I really understand his situation as I am the same. But I would rather be the world's greatest dad than the world's greatest pool player. As I am sure Brian feels the same way. But man, I have 2 kids and can't wait til they go off to college. Keep knockin' 'em down Brian.
What happened was when they got to the start of a new rack, they "had" to make the bet "all-in" for the shoter stack so they could get the event over within 2 1/2 hours or under, for Accu-Stats purposes.
If they ran over 2 1/2 hours, the match would require another DVD to be added to the match, thus increasing costs all around. When they announced the "all-in", Shannon was at $7100, Brian at $6900. The players didn't want the "all-in" yet, but the organizers insisted. At that point, Brian and Shannon chatted and agreed to the saver. They finished the match as many of us had "side interests" that needed to be decided. The players and much of the crowd was upset with the timing of the "all-in" wager, but it was dictated by Accu-Stats. People were jawing with Grady over it since he was the organizer, but his hands were tied, so people shouldn't be upset with him. I don't agree with the way it ended, but they did announce at the start of the match that it would be time-limited at 2 1/2 hours. As we discussed this in the crowd after the match, several questions were raised.....why should Accu-Stats have a say-so in the format/timing of the match when they aren't contributing to the prize fund? If they're kicking 5K into the pot, by all means, they should have some input as to the format of the event.
Anyway, it was another great exciting event at the DCC that everyone should try to get to. The DCC is an amazing event that gets better and better every year. High praises to the folks at Diamond and those involved in all aspects of the tournaments and additional events. I could only stay from late Friday through Sunday evening, but I'm on my way back again this Friday night! Can't wait!
If they ran over 2 1/2 hours, the match would require another DVD to be added to the match, thus increasing costs all around. When they announced the "all-in", Shannon was at $7100, Brian at $6900. The players didn't want the "all-in" yet, but the organizers insisted. At that point, Brian and Shannon chatted and agreed to the saver. They finished the match as many of us had "side interests" that needed to be decided. The players and much of the crowd was upset with the timing of the "all-in" wager, but it was dictated by Accu-Stats. People were jawing with Grady over it since he was the organizer, but his hands were tied, so people shouldn't be upset with him. I don't agree with the way it ended, but they did announce at the start of the match that it would be time-limited at 2 1/2 hours. As we discussed this in the crowd after the match, several questions were raised.....why should Accu-Stats have a say-so in the format/timing of the match when they aren't contributing to the prize fund? If they're kicking 5K into the pot, by all means, they should have some input as to the format of the event.
Anyway, it was another great exciting event at the DCC that everyone should try to get to. The DCC is an amazing event that gets better and better every year. High praises to the folks at Diamond and those involved in all aspects of the tournaments and additional events. I could only stay from late Friday through Sunday evening, but I'm on my way back again this Friday night! Can't wait!
When they got to the start of the rack, they were going to raise the bet from the current $800.00 per ball. In order to get it over with in the required timeframe, instead of raising the bet to $1500 per ball (or some other amount), they raised it to whatever the amount the lower player had left. In this case, it was Brian at $6900.00. This way, all Shannon would have to do is make one ball and he'd win. What happened is Shannon broke and didn't make anything. Brian came to the table and made a ball, which made the "score" $13,800 for Brian, $200.00 for Shannon. Now, the bet actually dropped to $200.00, because that was all Shannon had left of his bankroll. Then, Brian made another ball for the win. Based on our discussion in the crowd, we figured they should've raised the bet to $1500.00 or so per ball, giving either player the chance to string together 5 or so in a row to win the event. Hopefully, as they hold these events year after year, they can make some minor changes to the format to prevent this type of finish.
vagabond said:
How are ya, Vagabond? All in means the bet, per ball, is what ever the lower man has in his account. In this case Brian had $6,900 meaning they were playing for that amount per ball. If he had made the first ball the bet would have been what ever Shannon had in his account for the next ball, which is what happened.
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Banks Ring game.. Better than last year..
I was also present at this years Banks Ring game and in many ways, it was much better than last. The 10 ball format was much more exciting and the format was much smoother than last year.
I do not believe that anyone like the all in that happened but what can you do. The part that was upsetting was that it was just announced all of a sudden and that had a lot of folks a little antsy, including the players. I had some cheese on Brian so I did not like my odds at that point with Shannon breaking and needing only one ball. I thought that he and Brian did the right thing by making a saver at that point. That is what appeared to happen but I cannot confirm that for sure.
The bet went my way but I still didn't like what happed but the game was a ton of fun to watch, none the less. I had to return yesterday but had a fantastic weekend. The DCC is my favorite event, Hands Down.
Peace, Joe Koontz
I was also present at this years Banks Ring game and in many ways, it was much better than last. The 10 ball format was much more exciting and the format was much smoother than last year.
I do not believe that anyone like the all in that happened but what can you do. The part that was upsetting was that it was just announced all of a sudden and that had a lot of folks a little antsy, including the players. I had some cheese on Brian so I did not like my odds at that point with Shannon breaking and needing only one ball. I thought that he and Brian did the right thing by making a saver at that point. That is what appeared to happen but I cannot confirm that for sure.
The bet went my way but I still didn't like what happed but the game was a ton of fun to watch, none the less. I had to return yesterday but had a fantastic weekend. The DCC is my favorite event, Hands Down.
Peace, Joe Koontz
Accustats recording and making tapes of the event increase its credibility and popularity and naturally its exposure, making it far more attractive to sponsors, and drawing bigger fields and audiences.Shorty said:
Though they may not cough up cash, they add very significant value to the event for the organizers. They are a media partner...a very valuable part of success in sports management.
If they had to edit the match, or sell it on 1.2 DVD's then everyone's a loser in the long run.
Since its out in the open about the saver, let me add something additional. I was sitting directly behind Gregg, and was probably as close to him as Shannon was when he walked over to discuss the saver. Shannon's first words were "I have a shot to win, but its kinda bullsh*t this is coming down to one ball..you want to split it?" Meanwhile at least two or three people were yelling CUT IT UP! CUT IT UP!
I also agree that doing the saver was the right play, or at least it seemed that way sitting ring side. Gregg took the one shot in the match that was worth $14k and the shot to the side pocket was soooooo close. He was shooting at a pocket that was partially obstructed. Maybe a 4" pocket and he jusssssst missed it. Wow that was crazy too because from the angle I was sitting, watching that slow roll shot, he missed it by maybe 2-3 millimeters. Unreal how the game comes down to that for all the cheese.
I also agree that doing the saver was the right play, or at least it seemed that way sitting ring side. Gregg took the one shot in the match that was worth $14k and the shot to the side pocket was soooooo close. He was shooting at a pocket that was partially obstructed. Maybe a 4" pocket and he jusssssst missed it. Wow that was crazy too because from the angle I was sitting, watching that slow roll shot, he missed it by maybe 2-3 millimeters. Unreal how the game comes down to that for all the cheese.
