Bar box 8.
- Thread starter Playa7
- Start date
Agreed. That heavy little cue ball drives me insane.
I love bar table 8-ball
Playa,
I love playing bar box pool. On a Diamond that is. Like most "big table players", that big, overweight, out of balance piece of white excretment drives me nuts!!!!! I admit it. I'm not a very good bar player. Now I understand why some bar box players are held in such high regard.
Lyn
I love playing bar box pool. On a Diamond that is. Like most "big table players", that big, overweight, out of balance piece of white excretment drives me nuts!!!!! I admit it. I'm not a very good bar player. Now I understand why some bar box players are held in such high regard.
Lyn
bar table pool is an entirely different animal imo. it's for some but not everybody. if you are a big table player going in expecting it to play like a 9 footer you are in for bad times. think of it this way.... what do you think snooker players think about 9 footers?
I wish I could find a 6 ft table.
yeah yeah! i would still suck, but man i might be able to bust the 6 ball ghost finally!
I play "Bar Box" 8 at least 2 times a week. I used to play with my friend on 9" tables but that was before I knew what I was doing, and it wasn't very often. I was ok on the 9 but I have learned a lot since then. I stopped playing for a few years cause I moved and didn't really have anyone to play with or a nice room to play in. I Used to play at Comet Billiards in Parsippany, NJ for those familiar. I was never much of a bar guy in general, since I don't drink, but I found a good bar about 50 min from me a few years ago, and have been playing pool there ever since. I found a nice pool hall a few months ago, and I've gone a few times and I cant do anything on a 9 anymore. Im pretty good on a BB though. Im sure if I practiced on the 9s I'de get better. The room does have 7" Diamonds, but I don't play on them cause I don't want to be laughed at. 
P.S. The bar table is a Valley Cougar, which according to their website uses a magnetic cue ball that is the same size and weight as the other balls.
P.S. The bar table is a Valley Cougar, which according to their website uses a magnetic cue ball that is the same size and weight as the other balls.
Last edited:
BCA rules
it's important to read the whole rule.
4.2 CALL SHOT
In Call Shot, obvious balls and pockets do not have to be indicated. It is the opponent’s right to ask which ball and pocket if he is unsure of the shot. Bank shots and combination shots are not considered obvious, and care should be taken in calling both the object ball and the intended pocket. s,When calling the shot, it is never necessary to indicate details such as the number of cushions, banks, kisses, caroms, etc. Any balls pocketed on a foul remain pocketed, regardless of whether they belong to the shooter or the opponent. The opening break is not a “called shot.” Any player performing a break shot in 8-Ball may continue to shoot so long as any object ball is legally pocketed on the break."
Thus a player continues to play only if his object ball is pocketed in the called pocket.
I never played under APA rules but I just read them and can find no reference to
calling a pocket. They talk about the object ball but it sticks in my throat that you can designate an object ball without at the same time calling the pocket. IMHO that is about the stupidest thing I ever heard of. Can someone enlighten me here? If this is true ,I would never play in an APA league.
it's important to read the whole rule.
4.2 CALL SHOT
In Call Shot, obvious balls and pockets do not have to be indicated. It is the opponent’s right to ask which ball and pocket if he is unsure of the shot. Bank shots and combination shots are not considered obvious, and care should be taken in calling both the object ball and the intended pocket. s,When calling the shot, it is never necessary to indicate details such as the number of cushions, banks, kisses, caroms, etc. Any balls pocketed on a foul remain pocketed, regardless of whether they belong to the shooter or the opponent. The opening break is not a “called shot.” Any player performing a break shot in 8-Ball may continue to shoot so long as any object ball is legally pocketed on the break."
Thus a player continues to play only if his object ball is pocketed in the called pocket.
I never played under APA rules but I just read them and can find no reference to
calling a pocket. They talk about the object ball but it sticks in my throat that you can designate an object ball without at the same time calling the pocket. IMHO that is about the stupidest thing I ever heard of. Can someone enlighten me here? If this is true ,I would never play in an APA league.
Last edited:
I know someone will misread me, but I will try to shed some enlightenment. When the APA was started by Larry Hubbart and Terry Bell, most if not all 8-ball played by professionals was played with no call shot rule. It was played like 9-ball that as long as you hit one from your group first, any ball that drops is good.
If you check a BCA rulebook from those years, you will see that call shot was only mentioned as an option. Prior to that, it wasn't mentioned at all.
So, that's how the APA started. In other words, it was consistent with rules of the time for the professionals that started the league. It made perfect sense then. Today, the BCA rules are call shot for 8-ball. So, anyone who doesn't know the history would think that the APA rules make no sense. It made perfect sense.
Should the APA change their rules to align with the rest of the world? I think so, but many smart people who have dedicated their lives to pool apparently think differently.
Fred
Seeing people b!tch about barbox 8 brings a tear to my eye.
Show me a player that can adjust to dead rails, slow felt and a funky cueball and I'll show you a barbox player.Don't forget the occasional funny roll, too!
Banks,
That was my point exactly. Play pretty fair on the Diamond's. When I get to the Valley's with the funky cue ball, my game goes to pieces. Rather go to the dentist for a root canal! Honestly, it's my lack of practice on those conditions, not the table. Way too easy an excuse.
Lyn
I played Barbox 8-ball once. It was pretty fun :grin-square:
IMO, it is the best game out there. I especially love playing Big Table 9-ball players.
The patterns on the small track are so much different and the safety aspects of 8-ball are beautiful.
IMO, it is the best game out there. I especially love playing Big Table 9-ball players.
The patterns on the small track are so much different and the safety aspects of 8-ball are beautiful.
Right you are Fred. We put "call ball" into the BCA Rules around 1978. That & BIH where major changes.....SPF=randyg
