Just want to be clear...someone once asked this forum if a tournament was being played on a Valley the same size as the Diamonds...not happening. I am a hard core Valley player because it IS a bar box. Every Diamond I have played on has always measured a few inches larger. A Diamond is simply not a bar table. It is a size of its own. Not 3 1/2 x 7. 1 inch in playing surface is a huge difference. Thoughts...
Bar Table Size Issue
- Thread starter BarTableMan
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There are different size bar tables. They very by a few inches. Some are 39x78. I think they make like a 42x84 too. They call it a true 7 foot bar table. But I have a valley cougar table that measures 40x80 at the nose of rails and my diamond 7'smart table measures the same 40x80. But I also have a valley table from 60's to very early 70's and it measures Like 38 1/4 x 76 1/2. Something like that. Going from memory. It is a real weird size.
You experts never cease to amaze me, Valley and Diamond have the same size playing surface and always have. The 38"x76" playing surface size went out well over 40 years ago, maybe even longer. The standard size of 3 1/2' x 7' foot pool tables has been 40"x80" for as long as I can remember.
JC
Coos Cues
This. They are the same size.
For as long as I can remember too!
Back when jump cues were becoming all the rage - some leagues instituted
a minimum length rule for cues of 40". The test was to see if it could span the
width of the rails.
Clever them bar boxers.
Dale
Very interesting, thanks for the detail. I didnt know there was so much variation. I checked the brunswick site and they have 38 x 76 listed as the playing area of their tables. I guess it might still vary by manufacturer (unless that is outdated info).
http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/room-size-requirements/
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Down in the Valley of South Texas, we had a tour event that was played on 9ft Valley tables. Bar table rails on a big table....it was fun.
Dynamo made a 9ft bar table as well as Quality billiards down in California.
Most every coin op table manufacturer built an 8ft, 44"×88" playing surface pool table, 23 different brands that I'm aware of at least. There were also a few like Brunswick and National that also built 46"×92" over sized coin ops as well.
And, once upon a time - National built a full 50 x 100 9ft coin op, but only 1.
Dale
If 1" of playing surface is a huge difference it amazes me that I am able to practice on my 50"x100" Gold Crown at home then shoot tournaments and leagues on 7' Valleys and Diamonds. The size difference is only a big deal if you make it a big deal. To me it is more difficult a to adjust from Simonis cloth to the cheap nappy felt they put on some of the Valleys at bars because it is cheap.
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That's only true if it's in a country outside the US because of the metric system :smile: