Barton cannot aim

8pack said:
The ignore feature...like people don't read what one is posting .lol.
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There are some that KEEP telling me they've got me on ignore. What's THAT all about?

Ignore someone or don't, it's not difficult either way. Jealously does terrible things to people...
 
Neil said:
He didn't threaten you. LOL. He is wondering if you would actually say the drivel you do when face to face with someone.
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You are an anonymous troll trying to somehow associate yourself with your countryman's cueing skills. It seems rather obvious you have no cueing skills. If you ever visit our great country, please come by my area, I'll gladly test your pool skills with some $100 sets. No streaming, no big advance woofing, we'll just meet up and play. We'll also test the size of your mouth when you meet someone face to face.
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That does sound a little bit threatening...
 
nobcitypool said:
LMAO! Now he must be trying to get me suspended. As usual Neil, you called it correctly.
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Don't flatter yourself, petal. I like my stalkers, so you're perfectly safe there - in fact, welcome to the fold.

ps can someone quote this because nobcitypool doesn't ever look at my posts, honest, and I would hate him to think I'm some sort of sissy who gets upset by something I've read on the internet, and would need to nauseatingly crawl to others' for support and assistance.
 
stan shuffett said:
Darren said what he said. Darren Is impressed with Pro one.

John has an invitation to be trained. Then what he says will be from experience.
I hope John will take me up on my offer.

There will be more and more pros speaking out.

Count on that!

Stan Shuffett
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Cool, look forward to it. Hope you can quieten Barton. :smile:
 
Knocking Pro1 due to one students performance is like eliminating the math department of your college since one student did poorly on one math test.

People who have nothing to do except start and maintain inflammatory threads really need to examine their lives .
 
I watched most of it and what I saw during the beginning was a guy who was not settled in and focused. And so he was going through the motions to show everyone that he knows every creative one pocket shot known to man without really aiming and pulling the trigger too early. When he settled down and focused I thought he aimed quite well.

Lou kept it very simple and that's why he won.

TheThaiger said:
Anyone disagree?
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Hungarian said:
I watched most of it and what I saw during the beginning was a guy who was not settled in and focused. And so he was going through the motions to show everyone that he knows every creative one pocket shot known to man without really aiming and pulling the trigger too early. When he settled down and focused I thought he aimed quite well.

Lou kept it very simple and that's why he won.
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Lou was just steady very few fliers. JB needed to make those fliers. What's funny is if half of those hard shots JB took on go in....He might have been up 5-0 to start the set. Lou moves those balls good when he's running them, like a surgeon. I saw things I'd like to learn how to do...He had several runs where he freed up a couple balls at a time. LOL also shoots those down the rail shots at a high clip. If they both are playing good though the aggression of JB would pay off. You has that composure though and absolutely zero head movement when down on a shot. Lou has the game built for pressure his fundamentals are top notch.

He still pivots though!!!! So Lou should explain this pivot one time
 
bigshooter said:
Knocking Pro1 due to one students performance is like eliminating the math department of your college since one student did poorly on one math test.

People who have nothing to do except start and maintain inflammatory threads really need to examine their lives .
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All I did was ask who disagreed with my statement that Barton cannot aim.

People who have nothing better to do than troll worthwhile threads on meaningless aiming systems really need to examine their lives.
 
mikeyfrost said:
Lou has the game built for pressure his fundamentals are top notch.
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No they are not! He looks like he can deliver the ball where he is aiming but his fundamentals are far from top notch.

They work well enough for what he does, but I'd need convincing they would yield much of a stroke if needed one.
 
TheThaiger said:
Can someone tell me who nobcitypool is, why he keeps following me around, and why he's now offering to stove my face in with a baseball bat in a pub car park?

Oh, and can someone quote this post please, as he's got me on ignore and never reads my posts.

:rolleyes:
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He probably follows you around for the same reason you follow John around.
And why do you create meaningless threads like this one?
If I'm wrong, then what was you point of this thread?
 
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TheThaiger said:
Anyone disagree?
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The way he was preaching about aiming and now seeing him play you would think that. John has something that will only allow him to play at certain level .(inconsistent level ). He spent to much time on the things that will only work if you have good mechanics .His follow through on certain shots killed him.Why in the world knowone along his travels helped him cure this is crazy. In my opinion he had a good chance to win this,Lou has solid fundamentals and was given some nice starts at running balls. Aiming system or not you'll always be your worst enemy with a bad stroke.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
Mr. Barton did ok. He did make some fine shots under a lot of pressure. He was really up against it against Mr. Figueroa, who clearly had a more solid technique and most importantly more patience. It was curious to me that Mr. Barton was steering a lot of his shots. This, to me, show that he is not 100% committed to his aiming line. Either he is not using the system on every shot, or he is still a bit uncertain about how to use it. If the misses were all because of stroke flaws, wouldn't he stay down and commit to the shot?

Stroke flaws in my experience look different to what Mr. Barton was doing. You could call steering a stroke flaw of course, but I feel that it should be its own category. Steering is a subconscious correction of flawed alignment, while stroke flaws are involuntary moves off line due to not staying still or having a poorly grooved swing. It often manifests itself in the shape of moving the elbow to the side (chicken wing) or turning the wrist. Typically these flaws will be rather consistent in direction and will therefore have different results when you cut the ball right or left. Steering will usually vary with direction. The one thing that CTE Pro1 without a doubt has going for it is its focus on alignment of head and body, and since you are not supposed to look at the pocket other than to choose category there should be no steering, you may miss but there shouldn't be steering, at least not in the direction of the pocket.

I did notice that he poked a lot of his shots too, but I think we can chalk that up to the pressure. I don't know if I could even hit the rail playing for 10 000.
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Stroke flaws are generally considered to be anything that prevents one from moving the cue in a straight line at the speed you chose. Body alignment falls into that category. And is the primary cause of a poor stroke.
 
8pack said:
The way he was preaching about aiming and now seeing him play you would think that. John has something that will only allow him to play at certain level .(inconsistent level ). He spent to much time on the things that will only work if you have good mechanics .His follow through on certain shots killed him.Why in the world knowone along his travels helped him cure this is crazy. In my opinion he had a good chance to win this,Lou has solid fundamentals and was given some nice starts at running balls. Aiming system or not you'll always be your worst enemy with a bad stroke.
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It was stated in the past, that he did have help with other areas besides aiming. But, I imagine that in the heat of the battle, the old ways jumped to the forefront due to lack of proper training on John's part. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if John spent 90%+ of his training time on strategy and banks.
 
Wow! How did I miss this thread? A thread in the Aiming forum created by someone who supposedly doesn't subscribe to aiming systems, doesn't believe in aiming systems, and believes it's just fool's play to invest one's time in anything aiming system related?

Someone is investing an awful lot of his time focused on this aiming system topic, for someone who supposedly dismisses it out of hand as foolhardy.

Tells the tale why he's really here...

-Sean
 
TheThaiger said:
No they are not! He looks like he can deliver the ball where he is aiming but his fundamentals are far from top notch.

They work well enough for what he does, but I'd need convincing they would yield much of a stroke if needed one.
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You realize he wasn't playing 9 ball right? Who knows if he can draw his ball. I know he was still as a picture and only thing moving was that back arm once he was set. Held up damn well for 10 dimes. He looked solid for the big cheese.
 
JB steered quite a few of his shots...likely because he was bearing down so hard on those particular shots that made him subconsciously second guess his line. He also looked to be steering when he was trying to "finesse" the shot with more English or spin than he was lined up for. I don't know how long he's been playing 1 Pocket, but I was impressed with some of his moves, he obviously picked up a few tricks in his preparation.

Overall, I thought they both played well, Lou was much stronger out the gate and in the final rack; JB went into grind mode during the middle stretch, and should have stayed there--would have been closer. He took some risks and always paid dearly for it.
 
sfleinen said:
Wow! How did I miss this thread? A thread in the Aiming forum created by someone who supposedly doesn't subscribe to aiming systems, doesn't believe in aiming systems, and believes it's just fool's play to invest one's time in anything aiming system related?

Someone is investing an awful lot of his time focused on this aiming system topic, for someone who supposedly dismisses it out of hand as foolhardy.

Tells the tale why he's really here...

-Sean
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Do you mean by starting ONE thread on aiming, and asking THIS question?

Anyone disagree?
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Now I'm no typist, as you know, but I'm really not "investing an awful lot of time on this aiming system topic".
 
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