BCA Hall of Fame 2008 nominations?

Danny Kuykendal said:
by dishonesty I mean showing a weaker speed and leading someone on in order to "steal" the cash.
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howdy,
Showing weaker speed ( hustling ) is nothing to do with value system and dishonesty.These guys showing weaker speed broke no statutary laws of USA and broke no moral rules.

It is the guys who fall for hustling are the ones to be blamed for their inflated self esteems,disrespect for the talent of other people and lastly for their greediness to rob the guy (hustler) who appeared to have weaker speed.:cool:
Hustling is an art and not every one is good at it.
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jay helfert said:
I am a member of the HOF committee, and we are sent a preliminary ballot months in advance. We can suggest names to add to the ballot at that time. I think there are about 30 people on the committee, and player must be named on 75% of the ballots to get in. Somewhat like the baseball HOF. We can vote for as many players as we want.

I will continue to vote for Parica until he gets in. Johnny and Allison have to get my vote if they are on the ballot. Ronnie has to get in line behind them. Yes, he was one of the greatest One Pocket players ever, but at other games he was just good, not great. He played in most of the major tournaments from the 60's through the 80s, with only average results.

I staked Ronnie the year he won the Red's One Pocket event (1984 or 85). His best 9-Ball showing was finishing second to Mike Sigel in the 1982 Caesar's Tahoe Classic.
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Jay, who else gets to vote. How many of the voters are truly are knowledgeable of the game and players.

Do they the ovther voters have knowledge from attending and watching as well as playing or do they just have a job that comes with the vote?

Also did you see Vernon Elliot play in his prime as I know you have been nationwide for life. If you saw him play in the 60s to 80s how did he rate in your opionion against the current players in the HOF.

Should the players in the HOF be only the known players or should the best players be in there as well even if they the best player avoided the tourney scene like the plague?
 
John, I've been a part of the gambling scene in the past, and I know all about it. I travelled with Joe Salazar on a road trip to Chicago in 1991 and I've been familiar with the scene even before then. I [played for money for a while, never high stakes, but I still played. I was asked on several occasions to do "business" with someone, but I always refused.
No, I don't believe that golf has this same element behind the scenes, if it does then the public certainly doesn't know about it.
I own a pool room now, and for the past 14 years I've discouraged gambling for high stakes; if players want to play for a few bucks where noone gets hurt, I don't mind. I will not allow hustlers into my place to take advantage of the players, because I don't believe it's right.
I don't feel that the public can identify with the life of a pool hustler. It is an amusement for them to view it from the outside, but not an entity that they want to be a part of.

I know Ronnie's dad was a carnival man, and Ronnie grew up in that atmosphere, and so it's been tough for him to make an honest living. That doesn't change his hustling and "dumping". It is what it is, and it isn't an honest way to treat people.
 
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