BCAPL Dress Code

Is there a "best dressed" award? Or are people just offended by hats and shorts?


I believe the idea is make the event look, if not professional, at least civilized.

What many people forget is that the pool players in Vegas will not be there all by their lonesomes. They will be walking through the hotel and casino and people are going to look at all the people with cases slung over their shoulders and wonder what is going on. I don't believe it's unreasonable for the promoters to want to make a semi-favorable impression. This extends a bit further to the Open or Pro events as, at least in theory, they represent the game's elite or highest level practitioners.

Whether we like it of not, we are all on display and are all ambassadors of the game at a big tournament like this. Particularly in a high vis, busy place like Vegas.

People seeing all the pool players can focus on how poorly they're dressed and think, "Man. What a bunch of low-lifes -- who let them in?" Or they might think, "Hey. A serious looking pool tournament going. Cool."

Lou Figueroa
 
I believe the idea is make the event look, if not professional, at least civilized.

What many people forget is that the pool players in Vegas will not be there all by their lonesomes. They will be walking through the hotel and casino and people are going to look at all the people with cases slung over their shoulders and wonder what is going on. I don't believe it's unreasonable for the promoters to want to make a semi-favorable impression. This extends a bit further to the Open or Pro events as, at least in theory, they represent the game's elite or highest level practitioners.

Whether we like it of not, we are all on display and are all ambassadors of the game at a big tournament like this. Particularly in a high vis, busy place like Vegas.

People seeing all the pool players can focus on how poorly they're dressed and think, "Man. What a bunch of low-lifes -- who let them in?" Or they might think, "Hey. A serious looking pool tournament going. Cool."

Lou Figueroa

Great post, Lou. That last paragraph is key, for pool players, being the extremely "what's in it for me?" selfish types they are, COMPLETELY FORGET about what they look like as ambassadors of their sport.

I know the first time I'd ever seen a large-scale pool tournament in a nearly-forgotten decade, I watched large numbers of folks shuffling into a convention center with shorts, flip-flops, unkempt/untucked T-shirts, etc. Forget the fact that many were overweight, and were wobbling side to side as they shuffled in (which exacerbated the terrible look) -- it didn't present a good impression *at all*. I thought to myself, "geez, is that what the pool-playing populace really looks like? This is representative??"

Needless to say, I wasn't impressed -- and neither were the folks who were with me at the time. "Slobs" was the general word muttered.

Folks complain all the time here on these boards about the sorry state of pool, etc., and throw their hands up in the air with the question, "what can be done?" Anytime I hear this question, I usually respond, "You can start by having some respect for yourself, which translates into respect for how you represent your sport. Take a shower or bath and comb your hair. Dress better -- this tends to have an immediate GQ effect on yourself, as well as what impressions you leave on others about what you do."

It's amazing how incredibly selfish the pool playing species is. They can't see past their own nose.

-Sean
 
Fats Dressed.

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Willie Dressed

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Gleson, and Newman Dressed.

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Looking at the pictures and reading the rules...I take it sagging is allowed as long as you wear a shirt.

Thanks

As Mark said - NO!

Even with a shirt on, two problems: First, the rise will only come to the knees, or lower thigh at most. That ain't gonna cut it. Second, and more importantly, when you lean over and stretch for a shot your skivvies (or worse) are gonna be on display for the whole world. That ain't gonna cut it either.

And it isn't the same as someone making a legitimate attempt to keep a pair of pants with a normal, conventional rise, up and then just having them slip a little. In that case, they are not intentionally wearing them with the waist around their butt.

Save yourself a forfeit. Get a pair of pants with a conventional rise and wear a belt. Problem solved.

In all cases remember that if the violation can be corrected immediately, meaning without leaving the area of the table (unless you have a time-out), there is no penalty applied. The only way violations that can be corrected immediately will get you in trouble is if you have to be told multiple times about the same thing. That problem will be treated as UC.

B

P.S. If your comment is just joking about the fact that the person in the drawing isn't wearing a shirt...well, ya got me there :rolleyes: and don't think I'm yelling. Still, don't tempt fate! :eek:
 
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As Mark said - NO!

Even with a shirt on, two problems: First, the rise will only come to the knees, or lower thigh at most. That ain't gonna cut it. Second, and more importantly, when you lean over and stretch for a shot your skivvies (or worse) are gonna be on display for the whole world. That ain't gonna cut it either.

And it isn't the same as someone making a legitimate attempt to keep a pair of pants with a normal, conventional rise, up and then just having them slip a little. In that case, they are not intentionally wearing them with the waist around their butt.

Save yourself a forfeit. Get a pair of pants with a conventional rise and wear a belt. Problem solved.

In all cases remember that if the violation can be corrected immediately, meaning without leaving the area of the table (unless you have a time-out), there is no penalty applied. The only way violations that can be corrected immediately will get you in trouble is if you have to be told multiple times about the same thing. That problem will be treated as UC.

B

P.S. If your comment is just joking about the fact that the person in the drawing isn't wearing a shirt...well, ya got me there :rolleyes: and don't think I'm yelling. Still, don't tempt fate! :eek:


Not too long ago a young lad came into the pool room and started knocking balls around on the table next to me. His pants were in full sag mode and to make matters worse, each time he bent over the table he displayed huge-hairy-butt-crack.

After he knocks them around for 15 minutes or so he turns to me asks if I want to play some 1pocket.

Now I'm thinking to myself, "Self, playing this guy would be like stealing money -- he has no chance; you've had *zero* 1pocket action in a couple of weeks, so you could use the work out. But, you will have to look at huge-hairy-butt-crack every time this kid leans over the table."

I passed.

Lou Figueroa
some things are
more important
than money :-)
 
Great post, Lou. That last paragraph is key, for pool players, being the extremely "what's in it for me?" selfish types they are, COMPLETELY FORGET about what they look like as ambassadors of their sport.

I know the first time I'd ever seen a large-scale pool tournament in a nearly-forgotten decade, I watched large numbers of folks shuffling into a convention center with shorts, flip-flops, unkempt/untucked T-shirts, etc. Forget the fact that many were overweight, and were wobbling side to side as they shuffled in (which exacerbated the terrible look) -- it didn't present a good impression *at all*. I thought to myself, "geez, is that what the pool-playing populace really looks like? This is representative??"

Needless to say, I wasn't impressed -- and neither were the folks who were with me at the time. "Slobs" was the general word muttered.

Folks complain all the time here on these boards about the sorry state of pool, etc., and throw their hands up in the air with the question, "what can be done?" Anytime I hear this question, I usually respond, "You can start by having some respect for yourself, which translates into respect for how you represent your sport. Take a shower or bath and comb your hair. Dress better -- this tends to have an immediate GQ effect on yourself, as well as what impressions you leave on others about what you do."

It's amazing how incredibly selfish the pool playing species is. They can't see past their own nose.

-Sean


True dat, Sean. I recall checking in to the old EW at the DCC one year and the line of players at the hotel desk looked like something out of a Martin Scorsese movie. It was pretty bad and pretty ugly.

Lou Figueroa
 
As Mark said - NO!

Even with a shirt on, two problems: First, the rise will only come to the knees, or lower thigh at most. That ain't gonna cut it. Second, and more importantly, when you lean over and stretch for a shot your skivvies (or worse) are gonna be on display for the whole world. That ain't gonna cut it either.

And it isn't the same as someone making a legitimate attempt to keep a pair of pants with a normal, conventional rise, up and then just having them slip a little. In that case, they are not intentionally wearing them with the waist around their butt.

Save yourself a forfeit. Get a pair of pants with a conventional rise and wear a belt. Problem solved.

In all cases remember that if the violation can be corrected immediately, meaning without leaving the area of the table (unless you have a time-out), there is no penalty applied. The only way violations that can be corrected immediately will get you in trouble is if you have to be told multiple times about the same thing. That problem will be treated as UC.

B

P.S. If your comment is just joking about the fact that the person in the drawing isn't wearing a shirt...well, ya got me there :rolleyes: and don't think I'm yelling. Still, don't tempt fate! :eek:

I don't know who you are but there is a good chance we have met.

Just wanted to let you know there is more than a little of this coming across in the way you word your posts:

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Probably wouldn't hurt to remember that players are the same thing as customers. Most customers do not like to be barked at. State the rules. Enforce the rules. No need for "don't tempt fate." Referees at a pool tournament are not fate. They are referees at a pool tournament.
 
Is the dress code only enforced while playing tournament matches or does it apply while practicing as well?
 
Is the dress code only enforced while playing tournament matches or does it apply while practicing as well?

Criteria are: #1 - are the referees on the floor. Is so, the dress code is enforced depending on criteria # 2. Refs hit the floor about 8:30 in the morning, and stay until the last match of the day is finished, anywhere from midnight - 2 a.m.

#2 - is there a match in progress anywhere in the section. A section is any block of tables in an area surrounded by pipe/drape. There will be 11 sections in 3 ballrooms. Whenever the last match of the day is finished in a section, the dress code is lifted for that section.

Currently, there are a couple of rooms scheduled only for practice, 17 tables total. No dress code ever for those. Another room with 48 tables will not be in use for about half the time.

Dress code for minis has varied over the years, but recently has been in force. I'm guessing it will be in force for mini's this year, but Mark might have more info on that.

B
 
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