Best 14:1 Player Ever-John Schmidt or Willie Mosconi?

wrldpro said:
This is no true at all. Jayson contacted me without any knowledge of any financial rewards. Many other players will be getting their chances. No worries as there are many more pots of Gold as you call it and I will never run of out them. The pots of Gold are very bright and colorful and just as Gold and bright yellow as the bed sheets in your van that you live in that you piss on when you wet your bed daily through your adult diaper.

Before you stick your nose in somethings that are not your business or have the exact knowledge of then take your speculations elsewhere. Now go back to your daily bed wetting and instead of trying to reinvent how pool tables are made and put together try working on inventing a way for adult diapers to stop leaking or maybe its just your diapers that leak.
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No problem, I'll get right on that just as soon as you learn how to measure the size of pockets and miter angles, because either you suck at it, or you just like lying through your teeth!!
 
lfigueroa said:
ahem, like I said: hold your water.

I'm not worried about it and neither should you, especially since you are not a stake holder in this event. The table will be legit, as was the last one. Funny thing about pro pool players: they know how to adjust to all the *hundreds* of different tables they have to play on. I have no doubt all of the elite players we're inviting will find a way to run huge numbers on whatever table we present them with.

Lou Figueroa
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Then if that were true, why not use a table with today's accepted standards with pocket sizes they regularly play on? Why do you need a gaff table?
 
Then why the need to use a gaff table, why not get caught up with the times and realize 5+ inch pockets are gone from being used in any pool tournaments anymore. Are you afraid the current record can't be broken on 4 1/2" standard pockets used in tournaments all around the world? Personally, I think it can be broken, given the right incentive!!
 
realkingcobra said:
Then why the need to use a gaff table, why not get caught up with the times and realize 5+ inch pockets are gone from being used in any pool tournaments anymore. Are you afraid the current record can't be broken on 4 1/2" standard pockets used in tournaments all around the world? Personally, I think it can be broken, given the right incentive!!
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Your opinion doesn't matter at all to anyone about playing pool. Some may ask opinions about pool tables and that's where you need to reply to as playing the game you are not qualified. Our Table was much harder to play on and had smaller pockets than Mosconi or Schmidt's table.
 
wrldpro said:
Your opinion doesn't matter at all to anyone about playing pool. Some may ask opinions about pool tables and that's where you need to reply to as playing the game you are not qualified. Our Table was much harder to play on and had smaller pockets than Mosconi or Schmidt's table.
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Bullshit!
 
wrldpro said:
Your opinion doesn't matter at all to anyone about playing pool. Some may ask opinions about pool tables and that's where you need to reply to as playing the game you are not qualified. Our Table was much harder to play on and had smaller pockets than Mosconi or Schmidt's table.
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I've been working on pool tables for 40 years, I know pockets, and sizes way better than you do, and what you just posted was a written lie!
 
realkingcobra said:
I've been working on pool tables for 40 years, I know pockets, and sizes way better than you do, and what you just posted was a written lie!
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Glen I'm not saying you don't know more about working on pool tables than me or anyone else. I will say I've sold way more pool tables than you ever did and ever will when I had multiple retail stores.
 
realkingcobra said:
I've been working on pool tables for 40 years, I know pockets, and sizes way better than you do, and what you just posted was a written lie!
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Well then simply post up pictures of Mosconi's Table and Schmidt's table and prove us wrong.
 
wrldpro said:
Your opinion doesn't matter at all to anyone about playing pool. Some may ask opinions about pool tables and that's where you need to reply to as playing the game you are not qualified. Our Table was much harder to play on and had smaller pockets than Mosconi or Schmidt's
realkingcobra said:
Bullshit!
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I take it you’ve given up on “saving pool” and are now committed to trying to disparage others who actually accomplish great things for the game we love? At least you can use some of that leftover glue to shore up those diapers. Lol
 
wrldpro said:
Glen I'm not saying you don't know more about working on pool tables than me or anyone else. I will say I've sold way more pool tables than you ever did and ever will when I had multiple retail stores.
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With your expert knowledge please tell us how this 5 ball went in at the 2:33:00 mark. The 5 ball hit about 4 inches past the side pocket and the pocket must have had some magical magnet or something. I don't think you or anyone should ever say at anytime from this point on that our table was easier or a gaffe table. This was disgusting.
 
SmoothStroke said:
This is no tale, everybody watched it.

Jaysons accomplishment stands above Willie, Schmidt, and everybody else.
The amount of times Jayson played the game could be counted on one hand. It was obvious during Jaysons early attempts that his experience and knowledge of the game, could fit on the head of a pin. Even the experts on AZB said he has no clue how to play straight pool, he won't get past 200, etc,etc.
In a few days he caught on rather quickly.

His mental stamina was incredible for a guy known as a rotation player.
He accomplished in a week, what took Willie and others years to achive, including multiple attempts over a long period of time trying to break records.
If Jayson could go back in time, with the same amount of experience in straight pool as the greats, he would kick a lot of ass inside out.
He did it today, and he would have done it in 1960. And on the same equiptment they had.

The great straight pool players, past and present, have years and years of experience, thousands of racks, and hours invested in the game. Jayson is wet behind the ears.
They know all the intricacies of the game, and most importantly, maintaining concentration and focus over a long period of time, basically non stop. (Continuous 14.1)
Jayson is a straight pool beginner compared to them, go figure.
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We did watch it. Your comments only confirm what most have said about a gaff table and balls. Jayson didn't need to know anything about the intricacies of straight pool with big pockets and slick balls that scattered with the slightes touch and slid in hitting the rails inches from the pockets.

I'm not sure, but didn't the other players in the challange also do personal bests? While Jayson outdid them, they all proved how the conditions assisted them.

We can only speculate what Mosconi may have done with that table and balls. It would have been extrodenary with out a doubt.

It is not Jaysons fault and the run is real, no one is doubting that. But if it is to be recorded in any record books it still requires an asterisk and footnote,
"Done on a table and conditions for the purpose of establishing a high run".
 
wrldpro said:
Well then simply post up pictures of Mosconi's Table and Schmidt's table and prove us wrong.
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Do YOU have pictures to back up YOUR claim the Rebco table John played on had BIGGER pockets than you gaff table did? And in case you didn't know it, a ball rolling at pocket speed will go in the pocket when if hit just a little harder won't go! You should KNOW that by now!!
 
wrldpro said:
Glen I'm not saying you don't know more about working on pool tables than me or anyone else. I will say I've sold way more pool tables than you ever did and ever will when I had multiple retail stores.
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Selling pool tables has nothing to do with the size of the pockets when they're intentionally changed from the factory specs!
 
realkingcobra said:
Do YOU have pictures to back up YOUR claim the Rebco table John played on had BIGGER pockets than you gaff table did? And in case you didn't know it, a ball rolling at pocket speed will go in the pocket when if hit just a little harder won't go! You should KNOW that by now!!
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You are the person that called bullshit so back it up or shut it up. You obviously need glasses and also def do not know about playing the game at all and I even got to question your knowledge of pool tables also. So your saying that 5 ball should always or most of the time go in with pocket speed? How could you or anyone else ever say anything about any table including ours after seeing that 5 ball go in. Jayson played on brand new cloth and that's the reason the table played a little easier than it was for SVB and earl that's it. Jayson nor anyone other player at our event has ever played on our table with heaters under the slate which could be just 1 of the reasons that 5 ball went in along with shaved slate. Just saying.
 
realkingcobra said:
Do YOU have pictures to back up YOUR claim the Rebco table John played on had BIGGER pockets than you gaff table did? And in case you didn't know it, a ball rolling at pocket speed will go in the pocket when if hit just a little harder won't go! You should KNOW that by now!!
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Glen you have been a hater for our event before we ever started and that's ok as you are just one of about 5 dedicated haters and we have 10's of thousands of positive people who love what we are doing and will continue to do. Later Gator.
 
wrldpro said:
With your expert knowledge please tell us how this 5 ball went in at the 2:33:00 mark. The 5 ball hit about 4 inches past the side pocket and the pocket must have had some magical magnet or something. I don't think you or anyone should ever say at anytime from this point on that our table was easier or a gaffe table. This was disgusting.
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If you watch the 5 ball as it enters the corner pocket, it hits inside the end rail facing, then bounces across the pocket, hits the opposite pocket facing, then as it almost stops inside the pocket, it falls over the pocket shelf. Hit harder it would have rattled out of the pocket, you should know that.
 
wrldpro said:
With your expert knowledge please tell us how this 5 ball went in at the 2:33:00 mark. The 5 ball hit about 4 inches past the side pocket and the pocket must have had some magical magnet or something. I don't think you or anyone should ever say at anytime from this point on that our table was easier or a gaffe table. This was disgusting.
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Not sure what you thought this is meant to prove. Maybe that both runs are invalid? It does show one thing. John's run is a thing of beauty next to that abortion of a run Jayson produced. Thank you for giving us a chance to see it. I would love to watch the runs side be side for a real annalists. The final number between the two runs is not that great, one is as good as the other. It would be interesting to compare the quality of the play.
 
realkingcobra said:
Then if that were true, why not use a table with today's accepted standards with pocket sizes they regularly play on? Why do you need a gaff table?
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Because, as I’ve said numerous times, other than going with an 8’ table, we are trying to provide conditions comparable to what Mosconi faced when he established his record.

It has been well established that the pockets on that table were 5”+.

Lou Figueroa
 
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