Best 14:1 Player Ever-John Schmidt or Willie Mosconi?

middleofnowhere said:
Not sure what you thought this is meant to prove. Maybe that both runs are invalid? It does show one thing. John's run is a thing of beauty next to that abortion of a run Jayson produced. Thank you for giving us a chance to see it. I would love to watch the runs side be side for a real annalists. The final number between the two runs is not that great, one is as good as the other. It would be interesting to compare the quality of the play.
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I agree both runs were amazing. Our video that's coming out to the public in just a couple weeks is 100% unedited from start to finish except for We added Jayson's Commentary so everyone can understand and see his thought process and how he was feeling along his Historic journey through his run. It would be nice to see Schmidt's unedited version (6.5 hours) before editing and I as 1 of many would support John and pay him very well for a copy of his great run. Than as you say we all can compare the runs , the table and conditions and the patterns and shot making of these top professional players.
 
realkingcobra said:
Then why the need to use a gaff table, why not get caught up with the times and realize 5+ inch pockets are gone from being used in any pool tournaments anymore. Are you afraid the current record can't be broken on 4 1/2" standard pockets used in tournaments all around the world? Personally, I think it can be broken, given the right incentive!!
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Goferit.

Lou Figueroa
 
wrldpro said:
With your expert knowledge please tell us how this 5 ball went in at the 2:33:00 mark. The 5 ball hit about 4 inches past the side pocket and the pocket must have had some magical magnet or something. I don't think you or anyone should ever say at anytime from this point on that our table was easier or a gaffe table. This was disgusting.
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With the right speed and momentum balls can find the opening and go in. In this weekends tournament the pockets are very tight. I saw one ball Parica missed down the rail that was hit good but it had no momentum. In fact it may have cost Jose the match. Others on the same table with a right speed can touch a rail and may rattle a little but still go it. It is the case on all tables. In the case of Johns shot you show, the ball hardly came that far off the rail after the touch and it's path to the pocket stayed within the scope of the jaws of the pocket to accept it.
 
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wrldpro said:
Glen you have been a hater for our event before we ever started and that's ok as you are just one of about 5 dedicated haters and we have 10's of thousands of positive people who love what we are doing and will continue to do. Later Gator.
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Not a hater, I just don't support your bullshit circus act.

Look at these pictures, since when did ANY GC have the facings so short they didn't even cover the pocket liner, yours are so far back the pocket liner is exposed for balls to actually hit it on their way in. Then in the second picture you can clearly see the rail miter don't line up with the pocket casting like it should, because the rails are mounted as far back on the castings as the casting bolts will allow them to mount.
I've been working on Gold Crowns for 40 years and have NEVER seen this before!!
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wrldpro said:
Your opinion doesn't matter at all to anyone about playing pool. Some may ask opinions about pool tables and that's where you need to reply to as playing the game you are not qualified. Our Table was much harder to play on and had smaller pockets than Mosconi or Schmidt's table.
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So, why was the GC3 sold instead of keeping with the same table for your claimed future high run attempts? Then replace it with a GC4, that makes no sence.
 
realkingcobra said:
So, why was the GC3 sold instead of keeping with the same table for your claimed future high run attempts? Then replace it with a GC4, that makes no sence.
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The table belonged to The Billiard Academy which is non profit and operates at a loss every month and me along with others contribute to keep it going. The Academy just ordered some more new Diamond tables and Littman lights and it was decided to sell the table to offset some of the cost of new equipment coming in. I didn't make that decision as I didn't own the table nor any of the tables. There are 2 GC4 tables there and the owner was nice enough to offer us another Brunswick for our event. He sold the GC3 at a very nice price.
 
wrldpro said:
The table belonged to The Billiard Academy which is non profit and operates at a loss every month and me along with others contribute to keep it going. The Academy just ordered some more new Diamond tables and Littman lights and it was decided to sell the table to offset some of the cost of new equipment coming in. I didn't make that decision as I didn't own the table nor any of the tables. There are 2 GC4 tables there and the owner was nice enough to offer us another Brunswick for our event. He sold the GC3 at a very nice price.
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Why didn't you just buy the GC3 instead, so you could avoid the controversy later on for changing tables in the middle of your event, AFTER the record was broken?
 
I swear the next thing out of some of you will be that Mosconi would have beat Muhammad Ali in his prime but he just didn't want to and if he did it he would have used inferior gloves...and still won.

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I asked for the table to stay but the owner decided that he wanted to sell it and offer someone a piece of History because he feels Jayson or someone else might break the 714 and he would have another table to sell again. It wasn't about money to me as I didn't mind paying him for it but he also needed room for new tables that were on order.
 
logical said:
I swear the next thing out of some of you will be that Mosconi would have beat Muhammad Ali in his prime but he just didn't want to and if he did it he would have used inferior gloves...and still won.

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Here's a real tricky question for you, what does playing 14.1 have to do with boxing? Put the bowl down, and take 4 steps back !!
 
wrldpro said:
I asked for the table to stay but the owner decided that he wanted to sell it and offer someone a piece of History because he feels Jayson or someone else might break the 714 and he would have another table to sell again. It wasn't about money to me as I didn't mind paying him for it but he also needed room for new tables that were on order.
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Again, if the table was going to get sold, why didn't you just buy it, and keep it where it was, that way a new table wouldn't need to be bought to replace the GC3?
 
The_JV said:
Possibly... I wouldn't know. Although I'm betting the hype on a 'singular feat' would be better than a 'regular occurrence'
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Why, each time the record is broken, the table keeps a track record of it when the players sign the table skirts. Noting like owning a table with 3,4 maybe even 5 world record runs being played on it.
 
realkingcobra said:
Here's a real tricky question for you, what does playing 14.1 have to do with boxing? Put the bowl down, and take 4 steps back !!
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I have zero interest in a conversation with you. If you really can't understand what I was doing it will just be painful for both of us to continue.

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logical said:
I have zero interest in a conversation with you. If you really can't understand what I was doing it will just be painful for both of us to continue.

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I know its hard for you to see the difference between apples and oranges, but try keeping up with the topic please, its pool, 14.1 to be more precise. Not boxing, pole vaulting, auto racing, or even pole dancing.
 
Glen, when does your event start on the 1940 Brunswick with 6 - 6 1/2 pockets?
Just tell the truth for a change, you are not running anything! You don't have the
time or the money.
 
realkingcobra said:
I know its hard for you to see the difference between apples and oranges, but try keeping up with the topic please, its pool, 14.1 to be more precise. Not boxing, pole vaulting, auto racing, or even pole dancing.
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I don't know why I'm bothering...but I'll give it a shot.

People like to claim Mosconi didn't care about records, would have made 2000 balls if he had today's equipment or that he only ever stopped when he got tired.

I was simply pulling an outlandish claim out of the air to poke fun at his worshippers. It's called satire, AKA comedy for smart people.


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logical said:
I don't know why I'm bothering...but I'll give it a shot.

People like to claim Mosconi didn't care about records, would have made 2000 balls if he had today's equipment or that he only ever stopped when he got tired.

I was simply pulling an outlandish claim out of the air to poke fun at his worshippers. It's called satire, AKA comedy for smart people.


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I don’t know if you ever saw Mosconi shoot but, to a man, everyone who ever saw him play and who knows anything about pool, knows what’s being said is true.

It ain’t hero worship. When it came to 14.1 the man was in a class all by himself.

Lou Figueroa
 
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